Re: A few thoughts on form

September 3rd, 2016, 1:01 am

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http://blog.capwatkins.com/the-boring-designer

This piece on "The Boring Designer," really hits the nail on the head, and does a far better job addressing the idea I was sort of poking at when I started this thread. I want to be more boring.

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September 7th, 2016, 10:39 am

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bcpid wrote:http://blog.capwatkins.com/the-boring-designer

This piece on "The Boring Designer," really hits the nail on the head, and does a far better job addressing the idea I was sort of poking at when I started this thread. I want to be more boring.
The Normcore of design. Haha. Certainly has it's place.

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September 7th, 2016, 1:13 pm

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The Jasper Morrison/Fukisoawa piece on being "Super Normal" from 2008:
http://www.core77.com/posts/9326/jasper ... esign-9326

Everything has a beginning and an end though. Look how baroque car design has become in the last 5 years. I don't like it, but you have to acknowledge there are trends.

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September 7th, 2016, 6:17 pm

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In the example below, a bike helmet has been fitted with some technology that claims to make riding more safe, hands free and improves rider communication/sharing. My question is, do you really need the helmet form included in the concept in order to get the innovative consumer features? Why can't this technology be designed, packaged and integrated to attach to all of the existing helmets that are already out there? Can't we stop from making more expanded bead polystyrene landfill? Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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Re: A few thoughts on form

September 7th, 2016, 9:13 pm

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Thanks for the supernormal link. I hadn't read about it before.

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September 7th, 2016, 10:00 pm

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No problem, it is a bit of an older piece, but some relevant thoughts. Morrison and Fujisawa were all the rage back in '08 before minimalism went mainstream for the third (or is it fourth?) time. I think it is interesting if you track where simplification stated, I hate to say it, but it was in cars. In the 90's form and color were massively expressive. Post memphis, post modern, bio inspired. Frog was full swing with "Form follows emotion" and everyone was following suite with computer mice that looked like actual mice and Oakleys that looked like they hatched out of an egg on Alien 3 (they still look like that, but that is another story), iMacs looks like plastic gum drops and MacBooks (iBooks) looked like weed alien plastic purses. Into that weird form soup, 2 cars came out of the VW California studio in the mid 90's, the VW Concept 1 (New Beetle) and the Audi TT. Radically simple forms that influenced the entire category to move to simple shapes (though no one else pulled it off with the same level of restraint).... then comes the iPod, apple's canonization of Braun, DWR enshrined the Eames and LeCorbusier, Dwell made you yearner a creepily empty home, while "fuckyournoguchicoffeetable" poked fun at us all. and everything snaps to minimalism and the needle has staid pretty firmly planted there in product for over a decade.... but as other people pointed out, what was minimalism with an air of luxury and insideryness (oh you get it, I get it too, we should hang out)... has given way a bit to over simplification, which slides into cheapness. The automotive world moved on with the BMW Z4 (GINA concept) and unfortunately even Audi abandoned its Bauhaus inspiration. You can see it leaking into product with over designed gaming mice that looks like they could be Optimus Primes tooth in a Michael Bay film. Fractal inspired form work is leaking into all kinds of things that have no reason to be shaped that way.

My thoughts. Think for brands like Apple, minimalism will stick. Look at the iPhone 7, they are moving to more of a Porsche like philosophy. This is our thing, and we will massage it as needed. Other consumer brands will shift with consumer buying patterns.... so if you find that really nice coffee maker or what have you, snap it up. In 12-24 months it might look like a Decepticon.

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September 19th, 2016, 3:39 pm

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NiMaTh wrote: I have designed a few products, nearly the same in functionality, but in regards to user interface, completely different. The more minimal designed product actually required some detail instruction for the end user to be able to understand how to use it, while the complex design appeared the most minimal to the end user, presenting itself as a very intuitive product, no special training required.
I've often thought about this, and how things that are often lauded for being minimal can in actuality be quite difficult to use. They are not always readily apparent. Like the iPhone for example, when it first came out was actually minimal in its form and user interface. But now as they have added so much that the os is trying to accomplish and different ways of interacting (swipe up, down, left, right, in different menus and contexts to accomplish different features with no indicators of when or how to do them) but the form has remained the same, IMO it is not an intuitive user experience at all anymore.

I agree. And on the topic of apple, or minimal interfaces in general, there are two kinds of design paths in my mind. One is a very intuitive approach, and the other is a super user type of approach, where things are laid out for speed/ease. The first approach can be minimalist, but it can also get out of control fairly easily, where you end up with a button for every feature, and then it ends up just causing confusion. The second approach is minimalist by nature, but requires some learning curve on 'how to' access/manipulate things. Depending on the product, the short term/long term benefits could mean different things.

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September 20th, 2016, 7:42 pm

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Another article on Naoto Fukasawa and Super Normal, from the Herman Miller EDM just came through today.

Very strange as I only read Michaels' post yesterday and this popped up... The Universe is telling me something.

http://www.hermanmiller.com/why/the-intuitionist.html

I do have "SIMPLIFY" printed in Sans serif font above my desk on a plain white piece of paper, so I think I've been gravitating toward super normal for a while now, without knowing it's a thing. Great to see that boring design is actually a celebrated (or at least recognised) design movement.
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September 21st, 2016, 12:29 pm

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September 21st, 2016, 12:33 pm

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