Design Concept Challenge

June 27th, 2017, 10:55 am

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Thought this could be a fun one.

Problem: How do you tell which way a door opens

Challenge: Generate a concept of a door handle/s that clearly communicate to the user if they need to push/pull or either.
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July 2nd, 2017, 6:36 am

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This has a lot of potential! Nothing is more annoying than accidentally slamming into a glass door in front of people because the handle isn't intuitive to which way the door opens!

Its amazing how often you find a 'norman door' around the place. I'll try to get something up tomorrow.

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July 2nd, 2017, 1:39 pm

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I'll get this party started... quick concept.... maybe it flashes when it senses someone is trying to push.


What else can the forums come up with?
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July 2nd, 2017, 10:56 pm

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How about no handle for the push side. Amiright? :wink:
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July 3rd, 2017, 6:45 am

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The last one is cool)

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July 3rd, 2017, 8:26 am

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Pull Side:
Hard and sharp edges on the front surface and soft on the rear to promote pulling. Handle shaped like arrow shaped to indicate direction. What if the front was textured to look filthy so that people automatically grab the back surface?

Push Side:
Soft edges all around and nowhere to grip onto. Concaved inwards towards door to indicate pushing direction.

Afterthought: I forgot to add the push/pull text onto it.
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July 3rd, 2017, 10:52 am

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It is still ticking away in the back of my mind.
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July 3rd, 2017, 2:32 pm

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Getting closer ... still iterating.
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July 4th, 2017, 1:49 pm

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Anybody else have any ideas? Don't be shy, throw down a doodle...

a little refinement on that last one.
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July 5th, 2017, 8:56 am

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Possibly the best case is a door that opens both ways. With that out of the way I feel like this needs to go further and be more adaptible to different doors/contexts.

My first quick suggestion based on how I hold my hands when pushing/pulling is to define horizontal = push and vertical = pull. That way there is still enough freedom to adapt the concept to the individual door/room/building.

An other, idiot proof, way might be making the push side unpullable (just a flat surface on the door, without an undercut or nook to pull on), and make the pull side unpushable. Maybe a rope, though that seems tacky, but working with a flexible material that communicates that pushing makes no sense might be cool.

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July 5th, 2017, 11:55 am

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sketch it up! Would love to see.

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July 5th, 2017, 12:34 pm

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I have been toying with this idea too.. I would love to see a shape or surface that itself invites pushing over pulling and vice versa.
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A flexible element is a funny idea. It can also be a simple rounded cylinder that sticks out from the door for the pull version, sits horizontal for the pushing version and vertically for sliding doors.
A few days ago I had the idea to create a conic element that can only be pushed yet still looking like a doorhandle. The pull version would then look like the continuation of the conic shape but with the sharp side into the door, signifying that it needs to be pulled, like a cork.

Another way, I wonder how that will work out, is to have a standard doorhandle that when turned, slightly moves forward or backward, giving the person the idea and feeling of where the door needs to go.
I like adding an icon or text too, that always works better.
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July 7th, 2017, 5:16 pm

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yo wrote:sketch it up! Would love to see.
The first one would work best on glass doors so you'd see through to the other side. I feel like I've seen it somewhere before already.

The second concept works best if the limp, flaccid pull sausage gets a bit of a breeze and wobbles about, clearly signaling its unpushability.

Edit: I added a fusion of the two concepts, might be fun. The horizontal bar sits flush to the glass, so its unpullable, maybe even make it a half bar only.
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July 8th, 2017, 12:51 am

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I'm really new to all of this but I thought this would be a great way to jump in. Let me know what you think!
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July 8th, 2017, 6:07 pm

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LonghornGreenback wrote:
yo wrote:sketch it up! Would love to see.
The second concept works best if the limp, flaccid pull sausage gets a bit of a breeze and wobbles about, clearly signaling its unpushability.
Haha I love this description! :lol:

I like the idea of a flexible pull handle. We could use the tactile feedback and make it squishy in the direction that it is not meant to be used, signalling that it doesn't work, and solid in the direction that it is meant to be used, signalling that it does work.

Someone commented on my first concept above that they would call it 'pavlov's handle' for the forced affordance. Maybe the handle could drop a positive reward each time it is used the correct way, with no reward when used incorrectly. Will sketch it up.
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