It's all in how you spin it.

zippyflounder · January 19, 2013, 11:05pm

mirk:

Mind if I poke my head in as a 21 year old soon-to-be grad?

I’ve been meeting up with (usually older) owners and managers of companies that work in fields that will be relevant to my post-grad interests (offering to buy them lunch usually works). My reasoning is that once I can get them to start ranting, I can learn a lot about their career paths, and accomplishments/failures. However, as I see with zippy, they’re very well versed in spin and can be very convincing about their beliefs, especially when you’re there specifically to learn from them. So I agree, to an extent, that my generation, including me, have slightly underdeveloped BS meters. The nice thing about talking to many of them is that they often contradict each other, and bash other firms (including ones I had just talked to a few weeks prior, which is pretty funny at times), that way I can sort out for myself what I think is right. The difference between those who are duped and those who aren’t is whether or not they go out and verify the claims of others.

As for the innovation aspect, I had one boss at a co-op job who would pick apart every single decision I made, which was somewhat frustrating at the time, but really helped me learn to justify my methods and make good decisions. However it also didn’t work the other way, if I suggested using a different and uncommonly used material for something, for example, and had properly researched and justified the decision, it would often still get shot down without an explanation.

When deciding whether to stick with what works, or push forward in the hope of better solutions, I don’t think that problem will ever be solved. Isn’t that the difference between political parties in most countries? Designers & their politics

Just a quick question, did you factor in cost of failure and or production familiarity on your proposal for the new material?

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It's all in how you spin it.

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