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The Definition of Industrial Design?
It's right there in the title .............and on core site!
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February 29th, 2008, 1:52 pm

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any new or revised one sentence definitions?

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yo wrote:any new or revised one sentence definitions?
how bout product architect? i hope i dont step on any ones feet :wink:

thats what i usually say if people ask.

March 14th, 2008, 6:29 am

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hmmm, at times i wonder if design isn't just a kind of life sentence.

yeah, i know, lame! but i couldn't resist...

January 7th, 2009, 5:52 am

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Sorry - I know this is an old post but I couldnt resist adding my take on how i sometimes feel with a one liner . . .


Being an industrial designer equates to being a creativity whore!

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only when you put yourself out on the corner.

I was speaking with a colleague yesterday on the phone who frequently posts on these boards about some of the founders of the field; Dreyfus, Loewy, Teague, the Eams. They approached it much more as a professional service, akin to a lawyer or an architect. As experts in their field they founded professional organizations like the IDSA, wrote extensively on the field ("Design this Day" by Teague), published technical tombs like ("Measure of Man" by Dreyfus), and presented themselves in the public sphere as competent professional experts in creativity.

The "face men" of our field today are not like these noble founders. Just take a look at any of Stark's recent commentaries. Not only are they missed opportunities to explain design, he is actually taking us backwards with some of his statements.

Today I look to Richard Powell and Philip Seymour as the examples to follow.

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I think everyone gets this question and my response is a question and an answer

"What's your favorite product?"
"An industrial designer is the reason it's your favorite."
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Is it that hard to really explain that Industrial Designers design products? I think that nowadays most people are familiar with design having it been so publicly exposed over the last 10 years at least (Time magazine has a whole issue devoted to, even non-designers might be familiar with Karim, Dyson, etc.)...

All this talk of engineering + art, systems, user centered blah blah blah is just confusing and beside the point. I don't think if you asked fashion designers what they did they would explain that they "combine the engineering of fit with stylistic trends and modes of self expression to create wearable garments...". They would say they design clothing.

I just simply explain that artichects design buildings, Industrial Designers design everything else (products, that is). Pretty self-explanatory.

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Diedler wrote:How about ID is visual problem solving.
I agree with this.
concretebox wrote:Design is making the future.

sounds cool. if you are emo and full of yourself, and a large load of .***.
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rkuchinsky wrote:Is it that hard to really explain that Industrial Designers design products? ....

I just simply explain that artichects design buildings, Industrial Designers design everything else (products, that is). Pretty self-explanatory.
I'm not big on the fancy descriptions either, but I do think designers work as creative problem solvers on a lot more products than people think.. if they even think about where their products come from at all.

Gui, experience design, strategy, human factors, conceptual, crew area design, etc are all design niche that people might overlook, even in the industry
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I love this thread... I remember having this problem when I first started at design school. At every family get together I would inevitably have some relative say to me "so you're going to be an industrial designer... that means you'd design factories right?"

Because of that for a while I referred to myself as a "product designer"... I designed products, duh.

When I graduated from college and got a job at a big old "strategy" firm, I moved to just being a designer, because I could design anything you know... (God, the arrogance).

Now I'm back to calling myself an industrial designer.

I like it because not everyone knows what I do and they have to ask me. I like being called an industrial designer, because I'm a maker of things and the word "industrial" is a reference to that. When I would call myself a product designer it was almost as though I was glossing over that "making" part. On top of all of that Industrial Design has so much history in those two little words. When I say them together I think about all the old guys, my design heroes... the people I hope I can become a fraction of. To me industrial design is about looking forward and back at the same time.

I love this thread because of the constraint of defining this job/passion/life with just one sentence, because, after all constraints are what make great design. So my one sentence might go something like this:

I'm an industrial designer, I get to create objects you use everyday, some glamorous and some forgotten.
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how about... An Industrial designer created the Coffee cup, Im just trying to one up him.
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This thread sums up the main problem design suffers from - there is no clear definition, no clear agreement on what we do. It is of course idealistic most of the time; people don't really write manifestos anymore but I'd say we all do in our heads. Manifestos are fatalistic; they constrain creativity. Designers should not be tribal leaders. Doctors have a clear defined set of rules that regulate what they do. They know their role in society and they go about doing it. Designers tend to be individuals with individual goals and individual limitations; this is vital to the creative process but it wouldn't hurt to have a clearly defined moralistic and democratic set of professional rules for an overall social progress for designers to contend with. It would help businesses, marketers and clients to understand what we do, to understand where we are coming from and to understand how important design thinking can be. Democratization of design is an anti slogan. Surely a well grouped and agreed set of rules for designers to thrive from will help kill that slogan off.

What's an Industrial Designer?

I don't have a f*cking clue,

design however...
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I was thinking about this topic the other day when I was doing a workshop for the students down at Wentworth Institute of Technology here in Boston.

We all have very different processes, we work on very different product types, and we even have very different sets of deliverables, so no 2 of us work on exactly the same thing, exactly the same way. So all of that material is useless to describe what we do. The simplest, most universal way I could put it is:

we make stuff happen.
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Industrial Design is making stuff so that they feel right to us.
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