cg wrote:Clive writes about the design of the site, dated "19 July 20010"
That's just how far advanced the design is....it comes from the future-brought to you by Carl Jr.'s
That's what surprised me the most too. MAYA Design was behind the rebranding and site many years ago, why not use an agency now, when online presence is more important than ever?PackageID wrote:3. Why was this given to a recent grad. I have no problems with young designers doing work for the organization, but shouldn't you have given this to a branding or web agency to help you reinvent yourself.
I completely agree!! This is a much bigger undertaking than giving it to a recent grad that may or may not know much about web design. Also who manages this site? Is there someone that is in charge of daily management? This was one of the biggest problems with the last site given that content came from many different sources.cg wrote: To build a site like this, you need:
Creative Director: overall design
Interaction Designer: personas, wireframes, prototypes
Information Architect: organization, navigation, taxonomies
Usability Engineer: user testing
Visual Designer: visual concepts & assets
Photographer: headshots, reporting
UI developer: code front end, HTML, CSS
Backend developer: coding all else, IT
Webmaster: daily content management
Was this student responsible for all of these roles?
Sorry you haven't had more direct response, but we've all got a lot on our collective plates...rkuchinsky wrote:Thanks for the repl, Warren. Helps put things in perspective. I'm sure the dialog here will still continue and of course we always welcome your participation
Yup, and thanks for chiming in Warren, that makes sense. It's tough putting out something unfinished.5. Also as mentioned before the navigation is not really intuitive. This was the biggest problem with the old site so I would have thought it would have been the top priority of new site. I don't get what you are trying to communicate, where links are trying to take me, and there is so much really old material on the home page that I don't really want to look at it. Maybe I am still just struggling with why I even go to the IDSA website. Nothing really entices me other than to find out where and when the next conference is and that I could find out on the old site. I need reason and value for being there. What are you providing me that I can not get at the other sites that I have been going to for many years? Why should I be a frequent viewer of your site?
I don't completely disagree, but I think the idea is to allow more volunteers to take some ownership of the content as opposed to a few at IDSA National merely pushing it out. It's just too expensive to hire a team of designers, writers and researchers to do that... How do you think Core77 does what it does? Very few contributors to Core77's content are actually paid. All they get is visibility (which can sometimes be more valuable than money given the traffic Core has).no_spec wrote:I've said before that the problem of how to get busy professionals, or some of these highly offended posters up off their own keesters and contributing to the solution seems like an exercise in futility.
I'm not complaining, but...until IDSA isn't a volunteer based non-profit any longer, I don't see how these criticisms can possibly be addressed.
I think this is the key here. Everyone in the industry knows Core77 and travels through it everyday. IDSA, not so much. I still think the organization could do with a fresh start. I still get the feeling every time they do something it focuses more on the past and great the good ol' days were rather than keeping up with the times. The days of only getting together at conferences is over guys. And yes we need deign history, but we also need relevant information to current times. One issue I brought up to Clive is how does IDSA help new grads and the unemployed find jobs? This is an issue that is hurting us as a field as great designers are going unemployed and giving up.warrenginn wrote:Very few contributors to Core77's content are actually paid. All they get is visibility (which can sometimes be more valuable than money given the traffic Core has).