Generatewhatsnext wrote: iab wrote:
Generatewhatsnext wrote: our capitalistic approach to everything has minimized the value of our human resources(
Our capitalistic approach to everything has minimized the value of objects. And while there are consequences in living in a disposable world, I think they are far better than living in a world where objects are idolized.
idainc has brought up a great point about the "hiring fancy" of firms looking for over-abundant-ID-resources and all you've done in your three or four posts to him and me is to try to piss all over it. Maybe insulting him isn't the best way to make your point.
As for my comment about our capitalistic society and economy, it's spot-on...in mass production it has minimized the value of not only the objects in front of us but the entire process and resources (yes, even human) used to make those objects. While it has its obvious pros it certainly has its obvious cons as well, whether you want to admit it or not. And we could go further too, discussing the impacts of how our economic engine is influenced by our political system and how those influencers started the decline of our labor force beginning the slow push away from artisanship toward "get 'er done" about 45 years ago. It is that degradation of the expert details that you're mocking, although I don't think you know that.
And while you should be proud of how versatile you've become as a designer (in the past, I too have performed that laundry list of tasks you mentioned) I doubt you'd argue that you or I are probably not the fastest or most efficient capital planning or purchasing resources and so insisting or being asked to perform those tasks might help you earn your keep, it's not the best way to accomplish that task - and that was idainc's point - yep, the evils of capitalism.
I read the posts we received in response to my original post and quite honestly, I wasn’t certain whether I should take them seriously. In fact, I still can’t determine whether they were maybe tongue in cheek.
The proliferation of design schools hasn’t been a positive thing for the industry. There are schools that are located in areas that aren’t noted for their vibrant arts communities. There is an imaginary Ivy League of Design Schools. I went to one. Those that strenuously object to that notion just plain didn’t go to one. ID is far more than a trade school experience taught off the beaten path in a vacuum or in a community college.
The proliferation of people claiming to be able to do everything for everybody is very concerning as it devalues talent. It’s hard to imagine how one can have expertise in any one field when you also claim expertise in others that use very complex software regardless of “talent”. How many hours are there in your day?
You either are or are not an ID expert. You may have exposure to other fields but exposure and expertise are very different things.
As Generatewhatsnext says – the world has gone from an appreciation of talent to the baseless and barren “just gimme the file” approach. Deliverables without content fostered by the “I can do it all” school of design.
The same thing has happened in law. You can be on trial for murder with an attorney from an Ivy League law school (who’s a dinosaur) or you can have an attorney from a store front night school who is an expert in it all.
The plane is on fire. Do you want a dinosaur / expert in the left seat (with 18 or more years experience) or someone who "can do it all" ?