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Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: November 13th, 2006, 12:49 pm
by J6Studios
Has anyone ever used a "Pilot Hi-Tec C" Pen? I use a basic BIC pen, but I was reading Scott Robertson's book and he used a Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen.

Are these any different from a BIC pen? I see they have different size tips and it seems that you can only get them in Japan.

thanks

Posted: November 13th, 2006, 1:06 pm
by cg

Posted: November 13th, 2006, 1:55 pm
by Juicestudios
These are amazing ball point pens. The ink flow is very smooth for a ball (it feels like a gel, but won't smear like a gel). The tips are strong, but will be rendered useless of dropped on the tip. They are of course refillable. Google them on the net. I think there is a Japanese supply store in San Francisco that retails them online. The hairline .25mm is great for quick underlays, .5mm and up for defining. The bleed is minimal with a fresh set of Copics or Chartpaks.

Pros: even flow, strong sketching nib, refillable, good detail work in the .25mm
Cons: $$, keep some refills nearby – the ink can move pretty quickly, lightweight plastic can feel cheap in hand

Posted: November 13th, 2006, 2:25 pm
by cg
Can you get pressure graduation out of it, like with a Bic?

I don't like Gels or Rollerballs for sketching because the ink comes out at 100% regardless of pressure.

Posted: November 13th, 2006, 4:52 pm
by Juicestudios
Yes cg, it's not a continuous flow like the gels (my gripe as well). The gradation is minimal below the .5mm nib though. I haven't had any issues with the hi-tec clogging near as much as the bics i was using. Have you used the bic orange fine before? I just order a set from a store in the UK...I've heard good things.

Posted: November 8th, 2008, 4:03 pm
by diamondblast
cg wrote:Can you get pressure graduation out of it, like with a Bic?

I don't like Gels or Rollerballs for sketching because the ink comes out at 100% regardless of pressure.
I really hate those pens...
it's like when you are a little boy and can't control your hand :) and you always pressure your pen too much.

Posted: November 8th, 2008, 5:36 pm
by The_Boogey_Man
Does anyone know how these compare to the Pilot G-Tec-C4 or the muji pens?
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These are my 2 favorite pens to use and was wondering if anyone knew how they compared? never been able to find Hi-Tec C.

Hi Tec C Pens

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 12:59 am
by aedesign
The best benefit I found when I got mines (heard about them from the Feng videos) is they don't smear or bleed when you marker over them. They were developed for kanji writers who write very small and often smear other pens. I still like a good cheap bic for the expressive lines, but if you are going to marker up, photocopy, use the hi tec and lay down the markers!

Posted: December 10th, 2008, 11:38 am
by pixelfuture
Am I the only person in the world who does not like these pens? I always preferred a regular bic ball point...

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 4:01 pm
by scrotum
I've been using my Hi-Tec-C pens for years, I've been happy with them until a recent project required me to use a straight edge and some ship curves to define some lines. I noticed that after a day of running the pens along the edges it caused the tips to wear out, making them useless. They are wonderful pens for freehand sketching, but beware of using them along with a straight edge.

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 5:04 pm
by jada
pixelfuture wrote:Am I the only person in the world who does not like these pens? I always preferred a regular bic ball point...
It took me some time getting used to gel pens (I was taught to sketch with fineliner), but I now love them because they don't bleed at all with alcohol based markers.

I'm also using Pilot G-Tec-C4 or the Muji pens. Can't get the Hi-Tec C where I live, and just can't believe they're that much better, so haven't bothered ordering them.

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 5:40 pm
by scrotum
jada wrote:
pixelfuture wrote:Am I the only person in the world who does not like these pens? I always preferred a regular bic ball point...
It took me some time getting used to gel pens (I was taught to sketch with fineliner), but I now love them because they don't bleed at all with alcohol based markers.

I'm also using Pilot G-Tec-C4 or the Muji pens. Can't get the Hi-Tec C where I live, and just can't believe they're that much better, so haven't bothered ordering them.
Oh, you don't know what you are missing. But truth be told, I haven't gotten my hands on a Muji pen myself yet.

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 2:37 pm
by scrotum
Beware also that the Hi-Tec C ink is water-based, if you go over with markers you are going to smear all your sketch lines. I found this out the hard way.

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 2:52 pm
by bngi
Are you sure? None of my hi tec's smear from any kind of markers. (AD, copics, Prisma)

It was one of the main reasons why i bought them. Dont like that they leave a lot of ink blobs however.

Re: Pilot Hi-Tec C Pen

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 3:31 pm
by asango
scrotum wrote:Beware also that the Hi-Tec C ink is water-based, if you go over with markers you are going to smear all your sketch lines. I found this out the hard way.
What paper are you using? I soak markers all over Hi Tec C lines and get no smear at all.


The only retail place I've found near when I live is the...
http://www.mitsuwa.com/
market outside of Chicago in Arlington Heights. If you're not near the area check out any other Asian market in your area. If they have a stationary section you might find them.