Does the target age group really have nostalgia for this type of styling though?iab wrote:So someone tell me, why exactly is nostalgia not a legitimate need? People base their future experience on their past experience. Branding is dependent on that simple fact.
Aw snap, gettin' sassy. Here, let me help you get that stick out of your ass.iab wrote: btw, there's this thing called the internet. On it, you can see images and read about things that happened prior to your lifetime. Before the internet, we had these things called books.
Ooh we're doing this now? Happy to playiab wrote:Kewl.
Millennials are brain-dead sheeple who have no admiration of the past.
Here's another clue, you don't actually have to live in an era to be nostalgic for it.
Precisely. I never was saying nostalgia doesn't have it place, it very much does, by definition it is not applicable here. Historical admiration on the other hand is applicable though.mirk wrote: Historical admiration and nostalgia are different (see the lmgtfy), I would argue that nostalgia is much more visceral, and therefore more likely to sell products.
Yes. Not in the sense of "every single product out there sells". But more like "every single product has the potential to be sold if done right". Go to the very next 99-cent store and take a look around. Most of this stuff was never ever touched by a professional designer. Yet they crank out millions of the same kind somewhere in China and ship it all around the world right to your neighborhood. Because it sells. It really does. People don't ask themselves if they really need that awkwardly shaped toilet brush. They just buy it. And they also buy badly styled kitchen appliances if you sell it to them right. So "people buy it" is just no argument for a well made object.iab wrote:Almost ANYTHING sells?
I can’t imagine a larger load of crap than that.
I agree.I don’t know about anyone else here, but for me, fulfilling the customer’s needs is honest design. I will even go as far as to say that it is good design. Great design is fulfilling the customer’s unknown needs.
Ok, I challenge you: Show me a product that is still featured in one of those books about design and that is NOT authentic in it's own way. Something truly fake, superficial and rehashed that is still considered a "gamechanger" or at least "important" in its time.As for “authentic” design. Great. But to think it is the only “relevant” design is incorrect.
Correct. And again, you do need to live in a particular era to be nostalgic for it. Or don't you understand the definition of typically?mirk wrote: Historical admiration and nostalgia are different (see the lmgtfy), I would argue that nostalgia is much more visceral, and therefore more likely to sell products.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=strawmanmirk wrote:iab, I'm assuming because of your rich admiration of the past, and your vast amount of reading and internet research that you would love a Victorian era styled kitchen. In fact, you should be nostalgic for it, or else you're a mindless sheeple.
Mrog wrote:But the GE-Stuff is simply not fulfilling that "need for nostalgia" (if we assume that exists). It is just lying about that to the user until it falls apart. That's the fundamental problem I have with this.