Put up or shut up time for design.

fark, iacoca warned about helth cost and pensions to the public in the '80s.

914 has it right: i am interested to see what they can do. there is an assload of talent at that company. design alone aint gonna do it. even if gm does go bankrupt, it doesn’t mean the end of the company. i have no preference towards american cars and don’t consider them when i make a purchase.

i wouldn’t count them out just yet.