Geneva Auto Show

March 5th, 2013, 10:10 pm

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What do you think of the new Ferrari La Ferrari?


Lamborghini Veneno sounds as loud as it looks:


.... and then there is the Toyota iRoad...

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March 6th, 2013, 6:13 am

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For me the Ferrari is a jaw droppingly good progression of their current style. The Lambo's appearance is outrageously commendable (a la countache), & the iroad looks like it might just be more fun to drive than either of the 1st two ( in a sociably more acceptable way). It also reminds me of the ill fated Carver, which I adore.

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March 6th, 2013, 8:09 am

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Ferrari and Lambo: Please stop.

The Toyota looks like a Piaggio with a top:

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March 6th, 2013, 8:49 am

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I love where Lambo went with this, although it's not my taste at all. I haven't loved a Lambo for a long time.

The Ferrari is gorgeous. A beautiful track car. Can you imagine seeing that dart around the 'Ring a few times?

+1 on the Toyota, Ray. I had to check and see if Piaggio was made by Toyota after seeing the iRoad.
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March 6th, 2013, 9:27 am

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I like the exterior of the Ferrari. Certainly not the classic Pininfarina beauty. More challenging and purposeful looking, but not unlike most recent Ferraris in this respect. The interior is unfortunately (imo) true to the Ferrari tradition: an unbelievable mess! Looks like one of those wheel and pedals set you'd buy for your Playstation. And the name sounds like something out of a comedy routine ;)
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March 6th, 2013, 9:30 am

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The Ferrari looks like it took some cues from the P3 (not the one-off P4, ew).

I especially like the advance in aerodynamics. I have driven the P3 and other race cars from that era. They get squirrelly at high speeds.

Unfortunately cars like that get bought by tools like Justin Bieber. They loose cache when that happens, atmo.

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March 6th, 2013, 10:06 am

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iab wrote:The Ferrari looks like it took some cues from the P3 (not the one-off P4, ew).

I especially like the advance in aerodynamics. I have driven the P3 and other race cars from that era. They get squirrelly at high speeds.

Unfortunately cars like that get bought by tools like Justin Bieber. They loose cache when that happens, atmo.
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March 6th, 2013, 10:20 am

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Love this guy. Kind of Lancia Stratos like, off the Gallardo platform.

The Ferrari is stunning. There is one little odd crease over the rear haunches though. Maybe it's better in real life

The Lambo is nuts. I wondered where they would go after the Sesto Elemento which I really liked.
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March 6th, 2013, 11:56 am

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I'm in love with the Ferrari...it makes the Enzo look like a toy someone built in Autocad by comparison.

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March 6th, 2013, 1:11 pm

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Now I feel like I'm the old grumpy guy of the forum hehe.

Another thought upon further reflection, 'that's where all those Pontiac designers went!'
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March 6th, 2013, 2:06 pm

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Three wheelers. Cum se, cum sa. They come, they go. But none seem to actually be produced in number.

The iRoad. .. smaller than the rest and it's cuter. But with only an estimated 50 km range [33.5 miles] and a 3 hour turn-around charge time? It (like the others below) has three wheels and is technically a motorcycle; meaning that in most states you would need to pass a motorcycle safety course in order to drive one. And being a motorcycle, enclosed or not, in most states in the U.S. you are required to wear a helmet when operating it. And like most motorcycles, they are virtually invisible to automobile drivers.

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2009, Mercedes-Benz Dreirad.
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1994, The Carver, 200 produced between 1997 and 2006; no longer in production.
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1984, Trautwein Dreirad (three wheels)

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1983, 3VG; designed and prototyped by the folks at Mother Earth News.

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1980, GM The Lean Machine

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TTW, Ernst Neumann, 1945 (German industrial designer responsible for the Neander automobiles & motorcycle).

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1926, Neander Rahmen, aluminum box-section frame.
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March 6th, 2013, 2:35 pm

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Diggin' the lines of the silver bike at the end, particularly the leather piece that's starting to find its way over the tank and frame.It looks like an early harbinger of where bike seat styling was to go 50 or 60 yrs later.

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March 6th, 2013, 2:41 pm

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La ferrari.. What a name, bleh!
Like some things about it from where the hood stops and backwards. It gets a bit to pointy and cluttered imo. But considering what its heritage is with the enzo, it doesnt bother me that much. Never really liked the enzo either though.



Lambo! pretty over the top even for those guys. What i find interesting is that it almost looks like they took inspiration from audis diesel le mans car (and transformers). I do find the headlights pretty awesome, and the tail is pretty brutal too. Will be interesting to see it in the 3 italian colors that they pronounced. Maybe a bit too much batcar over the entire project, but kudos to having their owning designlanguage nailed solid.


I thinky my favorite car of the show is the Pininfarina Sergio concept. everything just flows so nicely.
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March 6th, 2013, 2:51 pm

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Diggin' the lines of the silver bike at the end,
... then you might like these shots as well. >> http://motorivista.com/1929-neander-p3-1/

The Neanders were not painted. The silver appearance comes from being entirely cadmium plated,.
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March 6th, 2013, 3:18 pm

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Lmo wrote:then you might like these shots as well.
The geometry looks so naturally good on that Neander!
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