Re: Need a new ride, budget edtion

October 18th, 2012, 9:32 am

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Scott: My focus is the same way (except no water leaking). I've had electric issues every other year. Wires snapping, poorly isolated terminals oxidizing. Greasy bits (engine and trans) have never been a problem. Really smooth running.

Plastics do a take a beating with age though. Whether in the AZ sun or -10 F in Montreal with a ton of road salt. This year, I replaced about $120 in plastic covers and air ducting for the radiator that was MIA.

Mind you, car is 10 years old. I've owned it 7.5 years now.
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Re: Need a new ride, budget edtion

October 18th, 2012, 10:57 am

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There's no excuse for a gearbox failing at 40k miles.
No there is no excuse, but probably a reason. Or two.

VW uses the same plattform items for the minivan,thus they are not specced
for the higher load capacity (volume). But those Touran things tend to get laden to the roof...

Anyway there are lots of typical faults that the Golf platform cars show. Which
tells me that quality at VW really runs only skin deep. Perfect paint. Tight shutlines
and nice dash materials, but everything beneath it is not engineered up to the
same standard. Thus I tried to persuade the wife into a W124 T-model. To no avail.

In my eyes all compact and subcompact models are hampered in more or less the
same ways. The new Focus is said to be a class leading offer, as is the Kia C'eed, that
you US citizens do not get. Those compromises would always lead me to by a used
car of a higher standard with some warranty and substance. Highway and freeway
mpeg figures don't differ that much from a Focus.

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P.S.: I just realised, that the 1-series hatch was not offered to you, as well and that
the discontinued Volvo C30 is extremely pricy in the US. So the reasonable choice
narrows down to a used Z4. At least for me. ;)
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Re: Need a new ride, budget edtion

October 18th, 2012, 12:23 pm

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Now that we discussed Porsche, I want a 993 in robin blue. I think I'll always want one of those...

Right now, I like the Subaru Impreza alot. Great new engine. Supposedly, still very robust mechanically. However, design is awful and they've slowly sucked the character out of their cars (no more frameless windows, 2-door model).

From a design standpoint, I love everything Ford is doing. However, the mechanicals are too fragile for Canada. Maybe in AZ it would be fine though.

VW is like the Rolling Stones. I love their old stuff, but don't want to hear them play a new track in concert.

Mazda is getting interesting with the new 6 and whatever that SUV is (something-5). However, they don't design for Canadian winters either:/

Kia/Hyundai is interesting. I love the Sonata. That thing seems class to me. The smaller ones look good, but my cheapness spidey-sense keeps going off. I'm sure there is stuff that is going to rot out or get damaged under those in winter.

The near luxury market seems the most boring to me. BMW, Audi, Benz, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura. I can't think of one that inspires me. They are great cars, I'm sure. It feels like they are all just copying each other now. At least Bangle BMWs looked a little fresh.

Jag is spot on design wise too. Great little gizmos. Shame they still can't screw them together better.

Toyota, Honda, Nissan are too boring to mention. Reliable though.

Everyone else is a mixed bag. Who knows what's good out there in GM, Chrysler, Volvo land.
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October 18th, 2012, 12:39 pm

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As you would expect, virtually all the electrical systems (lights, windows, instruments) the Brits designed have gone wrong ...
Scott, you do know that you can buy a Replacement Smoke Kit for your electrical system, right .. .. ? Or, maybe you just need a new SRV (smoke relief valve). Image
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Re: Need a new ride, budget edtion

October 27th, 2012, 6:59 pm

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So I went to the Honda dealer today and it looks like I can get a new 2012 civic for $19,700 including all the taxes and fees. I was looking at Ford online and it looks like they have an incentive that can get me a 2013 focus for about $1800 cheaper, but I haven't gone there yet so I'll have to check. Reliability wise do you think it would be a mistake to go with the Ford? Is the extra $1800 worth it for the Honda reliability?

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October 27th, 2012, 7:13 pm

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For that price you can get 2 used Audi TTs. Just saying. Think you can get a much more fun a still usable used car but maybe I just think a car should be more than appliance...

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October 27th, 2012, 8:54 pm

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The Civic makes my eyes hurt. If you are going with a new Honda, at least get the Fit, you are a designer man!

I'm with R though. Get a used TT. I'f had my 01 TT for 7 years and it is still going strong. Sure it needs a $1,000 fix every 12 months or so, but still cheaper than a new car all in, and understandable for a 12 year old car. Not to mention way cooler, faster, more fun, and environmental (the greenest car is always the one that did not have to built).

Check out some VW GTIs. At least drive a bunch of stuff so you get the feel for what a difference it could make. Cars are one of those things, you don't get what separates them until you experience them yourself first hand in the driver's seat.

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October 27th, 2012, 9:23 pm

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October 27th, 2012, 9:26 pm

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There's 58 Audis available for 18K or less within 30 miles of Phoenix. They're desert cars! They'll be perfect!

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/used/audi/ ... mkId=20049
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Re: Need a new ride, budget edtion

October 28th, 2012, 12:55 am

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yo wrote:At least drive a bunch of stuff so you get the feel for what a difference it could make. Cars are one of those things, you don't get what separates them until you experience them yourself first hand in the driver's seat.
That I agree with. I'll most likely be hitting 3-4 dealerships tomorrow. I also test drove a Kia Soul last night, but they said they have a shortage due to strikes and they are marking up their models almost 2K over MSRP, and the steering felt kind of stiff and weird, but maybe I'm just a wimp and don't know what a sporty car feels like. :lol: I did like the Fit, but I don't think I'm going to get as good of a deal on it, but it is a cheaper car to start with so I don't know. At first it was looking like used cars didn't save much compared to new, but as I keep looking I'm starting to see some better deals so I think I'll look a little closer.

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October 28th, 2012, 4:34 am

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Paying a markup for a Fit???? C'est redicule...

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October 28th, 2012, 3:06 pm

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You guys missed out on SAAB's. They have massively depreciated in value, because the manufacturer went bust. Most of their parts are interchangeable with Volvo ones. Over the last year, I have been in several car repair shops over 5 times. I haven't seen a single SAAB inside. Also, I have never seen a single SAAB that has failed the Irish annual mandatory vehicle inspection test (that's the same test as used in other parts of European Union).

I'd say, give SAAB a try, because I'm going to buy a used one myself.

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October 28th, 2012, 6:12 pm

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experiMental wrote:Most of their parts are interchangeable with Volvo ones.
I guess you meant Opel/Vauxhall as they did platform sharing with SAAB as part of GM. Opel isn't (I suspect) easily available in the US, and as SAAB had very much their own ideas about things they didn't share as much with Opel as GM would have liked (from what I've heard).
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October 29th, 2012, 9:49 am

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What about a Fiat 500?

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October 29th, 2012, 11:49 am

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Those Fiats are really overpriced. The interior is worse than a Hyundai that is a couple grand cheaper!
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