[quote="ufo"][quote="blaster701"]China is an emerging car market, and should not have SUV's yet. It will eventuially. Tiawan has only recently started to catch the SUV buzz. China will also. Maybe not as much as here.
The SUV and Pickup truck have a place in the market. There ARE reseons to own them. Does a majority of the people in the US market need them, no. They need to buy station wagons. There are people that will always need trucks, that is life.
I think there is a bigger problem in the US. Everyone is concerned about fuel econmony. Why are there not more manual transmissions? They get a few mpg more by self shifting. Everyone drives slush box autos. No there is a quick and easy way to get better mpg.
chinese never buy suvs even if you give'em free tires for the rest of their lives, just like they don't have fortune cookies. if you ask chinese why don't you have fortune cookies they'll tell you it's an american invention and chinese have no interest in it. on the other hand they have mcdonalds but it's just a shitty restaurant compared to those who sell chinese food. i guess if you're chinese you understand these subtlties .
taiwan might be a different story because they feel like they have to be US copycats to have an image of confidence and freedom which is totally fake. in china their roads are real flat, wide and well designed. in beijing almost all the streets are 60-80 meters wide. i'd rather ride an f1 car there than an suv. another thing is that in china they don't tow boats or other things. it's very unusual, expensive and maybe even prohibited for traffic safety.
chinese culture is hard to analyze for americans specially those in marketing will have a difficult time dealing with chinese mentality if they want to use the same procedures as they do with their american consumers.
overall i think chinese have better taste than americans. most certainly they have better taste than me too otherwise they wouldn't be kicking ass in the world right now. that's the main reason why they won't buy suvs because only tasteless, illiterate people like stupid rappers buy those cars to pick up doffies. i have no idea why someone with children would consider those things safe after all the accidents we hear about!! those people are even more stupid than the former phenomenon.
so if as a designer you believe this is the reality of the market and consumer phenomenon, good for you. except personally i'm not that kind of a designer. infact even if bob lutz himself comes and tells me he wants a design for the next suv i'll tell him to go to taiwan.[/quote]
??, uh, I agree, China is different. But 6-8 years ago you saw no SUVs in Taiwan. Over the last year or so, I have seen more and more SUVs there. Maybe China will not evolve into the US car market, but there will be some change. As more and more people purchase cars in China, you will see more SUVs there. Maybe they will not be traditional ones like here. Maybe they will be designed for that market. Maybe they will be more "van" based.
Either way, I think we are actually saying something similar. MOST people out there in the US do not need a 6,000 lb truck to run to the store. They need a nice Vibe/Matrix size wagon. Big enough to carry stuff and people. Fun enough to drive. I drive a two door small blazer, not a monster. It tows my trailer ( 5,000 lb ). I do not need a truck that can tow 11,000 lbs, I need one that can tow 5K, so I buy what I need. A car can not tow my trailer, so I can not own a car as my vehicle.