Re: GM rebirth watch

January 12th, 2010, 10:15 am

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That Granite concept is total hotness. I don't even care that 20" rims with tiny rubber tires are completely impractical these days. It's a beautiful concept. I also love that there's no B pillar and you can get in the way back from the rear doors. Nice.
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Re: GM rebirth watch

January 12th, 2010, 1:49 pm

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This thread needs more CTS-V Coupe.

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January 12th, 2010, 2:05 pm

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January 12th, 2010, 5:04 pm

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NURB wrote:That Granite concept is total hotness. I don't even care that 20" rims with tiny rubber tires are completely impractical these days. It's a beautiful concept. I also love that there's no B pillar and you can get in the way back from the rear doors. Nice.
Agreed, that thing is nice! Did you see the interior? Super nice. The Caddy XTS is pretty good.

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January 13th, 2010, 8:31 am

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The interior is great, every thing about it is great. I'm also glad they used the GMC badge instead of Chevy. They're heading in the right direction.
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January 25th, 2010, 6:45 am

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Hey guys,

can somebody enlighten me on this one please: What is the difference (differenciation) between the two
new BUICK Models? Why do they have the Regal and the LaCrosse?

First I thought the LaCrosse was the americanized version of the Insignia.

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But now they also do the Insignia and just call it the Regal (why not Insignia)

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(where are the ventiports?)

They also have nearly the same MRSP. ? IF they sold the LaCrosse with a benchseat it would be a little clearer. The Regal is meant to be a bit sportier? Does this make sense? Keen to see how GM will differenciate them in the marketing pitch.

All the best.

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January 25th, 2010, 8:20 am

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Mo-i: Does GM ever do something logical?

I think the thought is that the La Crosse will appeal to the more traditional Buick buyer. It has a V6 only, and is not sporty at all. The Regal will only be offered with four cylinders and has a manual option, if I recall correctly. The Regal will (hopefully) appeal to the Acura/Lexus crowd. We'll have to wait and see.

On a side note, I went over the La Crosse with a buddy of mine last week at the car show. Really nice! Everything that opened (glove box, trunk) had a nice heavy damped feeling to the way it functioned. The interior was well detailed with nice stitching on the dash, and three different colors/textures. I was very impressed.

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January 25th, 2010, 9:28 am

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mo-i wrote:Hey guys,

They also have nearly the same MRSP. ? IF they sold the LaCrosse with a benchseat it would be a little clearer. The Regal is meant to be a bit sportier? Does this make sense? Keen to see how GM will differenciate them in the marketing pitch.

All the best.

yours mo-i

The MSRP thing bugged me too, i thought the lacrosse price was ok, but expected the regal to be a decent amount less, the fact that price wise they sit right on top of each other doesn't really make sense to me. :?

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April 30th, 2010, 4:22 pm

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May 2nd, 2010, 1:59 pm

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I actually like that. It's futuristic but far more in line with the classic look than the current ones!

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May 17th, 2010, 8:22 am

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Looks like things are getting better over there:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/busin ... ?src=busln

However, I've now seen a number of new Camaro's on the road lately (nice weather brings 'em out) and I can't say enough bad about them. It's easily one of the worst looking cars I've seen in years. Maybe if it were 25% smaller (like the old Camaro) it wouldn't be so bad. But it really looks like a Transformer, and not in a good way.
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May 18th, 2010, 8:34 am

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NURB wrote:
However, I've now seen a number of new Camaro's on the road lately (nice weather brings 'em out) and I can't say enough bad about them. It's easily one of the worst looking cars I've seen in years. Maybe if it were 25% smaller (like the old Camaro) it wouldn't be so bad. But it really looks like a Transformer, and not in a good way.
totally disagree with you man! i think i can see where you are coming from though, i do think the edgyness of its lines are perhaps a bit extreme, and i imagine will get softened up in next gen, but i still get as excited when i see one on the road now as i did when i saw the concept car at the auto show. but i think its one of those like it or hate it car designs, its just that i haven't heard many people hate it... from the outside that is.

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May 18th, 2010, 8:50 am

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dziner82 wrote:
NURB wrote:
However, I've now seen a number of new Camaro's on the road lately (nice weather brings 'em out) and I can't say enough bad about them. It's easily one of the worst looking cars I've seen in years. Maybe if it were 25% smaller (like the old Camaro) it wouldn't be so bad. But it really looks like a Transformer, and not in a good way.
totally disagree with you man! i think i can see where you are coming from though, i do think the edgyness of its lines are perhaps a bit extreme, and i imagine will get softened up in next gen, but i still get as excited when i see one on the road now as i did when i saw the concept car at the auto show. but i think its one of those like it or hate it car designs, its just that i haven't heard many people hate it... from the outside that is.
I prefer the Challenger from a pure style standpoint, its much more resolved IMO.

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May 18th, 2010, 9:13 am

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NURB wrote:Looks like things are getting better over there:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/busin ... ?src=busln

However, I've now seen a number of new Camaro's on the road lately (nice weather brings 'em out) and I can't say enough bad about them. It's easily one of the worst looking cars I've seen in years. Maybe if it were 25% smaller (like the old Camaro) it wouldn't be so bad. But it really looks like a Transformer, and not in a good way.

Totally agree. It is the size and massing that is what is terrible. Design is OK, but is just like a toy in overall size and proportions. Unfortunately most cars these days have similar issues, though perhaps not as pronounced as the Camaro and other american cars.

Compare a new 911 with a 1960's 911 and you'll see the same issue, but how much better it can be handled.

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May 27th, 2010, 8:38 am

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asango wrote:
dziner82 wrote:
NURB wrote:
However, I've now seen a number of new Camaro's on the road lately (nice weather brings 'em out) and I can't say enough bad about them. It's easily one of the worst looking cars I've seen in years. Maybe if it were 25% smaller (like the old Camaro) it wouldn't be so bad. But it really looks like a Transformer, and not in a good way.
totally disagree with you man! i think i can see where you are coming from though, i do think the edgyness of its lines are perhaps a bit extreme, and i imagine will get softened up in next gen, but i still get as excited when i see one on the road now as i did when i saw the concept car at the auto show. but i think its one of those like it or hate it car designs, its just that i haven't heard many people hate it... from the outside that is.
I prefer the Challenger from a pure style standpoint, its much more resolved IMO.
asango,
i really like that challenger as well, to me the issue with that car is its price and performace when compared to the camaro and mustang (both v6 and v8), but yes i always do a double take when i see them on the road, they look great!
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