WTF? :: Red Dot Award Winner?

The Hippo Roller is the best thing going for that one…

It must be the four way draft that guides your card into the slot. Impressive.

Card readers are the dumbest things ever. Might as well sport a Jitterbug cell phone too.

I like the idea of an annual “open source” no fee/no prize design competition.

  • Only one entry per person.
  • Online voting (tech already exists)
  • Let the press cover the competition for a “halo effect”
  • Limit the number of categories so they don’t balloon to hundreds
  • Experimental stuff vs. manufactured stuff
  • The only gratification is a winning logo (competition for the logo?)

    Core 77 could do this if they wanted…

As long as the voting is linked to registered members or something to help prevent vote loading.

We’ve seen that before too.

Doesn’t it seem like it would make more sense to pull it than to push it? maybe even create some sort of cheap harness? What do you do with the water once you get it there? dip a ladle in? tip it up to pour? Did someone just “design” a 55 gallon drum with rounded ends? yeah its a cheap manufacturing solution, but would it have been worth it to spend a bit extra for something that is a lot more useful? Isn’t that the point?

Maybe attach some pump/siphon system and filtration? I don’t know. It just seems like those sort of questions ought to be addressed.

I think I like the tricycle concept that came out lately, it seems like it has more of those type of questions addressed, but still needs work. Its always easy to look back and criticize, right?

i thin kit’s important to realize design awards are pure marketing. winning an award and slapping an “award wining” logo/sticker on a product has some value to the brand/product/consumer, thus the reason that so many awards have a high barrier to entry ($) and costs associated with them. you are in fact buying something -


sure, anyone could start a free, open source design competition, but why would anyone enter? unless it was highly recognized (ie. $ needed to promote the competition), there is no benefit in winning. plus, starting a small competition isn’t going to get entries from the larger companies that help lend the competition itself credibility.

bottom line, no value in winning = no value in entering = no point in having a competition…


I think there are egos to be fed here instead of balance sheets. When you’re being judged by your peers there’s a whole new dynamic. Instead of buying the award you have to earn it. The marketing angle disappears. You’ll see more experimental designs as versus just launched products. (You won’t see card scanners that look like a brick winning either.)

The value is more intrinsic and cannot be calculated in dollars. This would be worth a poll post.

I also bring into play that the whole dynamic of social networking and how the Net works needs to be considered in this. All of the Awards that garner the spotlight nowadays began pre-Internet. Pre-Blogs and social voting and other types of networks.

I tend to think that there is room for someone with clout to change the paradigm a bit. Selling ad space could fund it (conceivably). Have an “entry” but also have winners that are based on “random selection”. As in, trolling the net and putting them up for criticism.

Have monthly “winners” and an annual “uber-winner”.

I think there is a lot of room for innovation on something.

competition for competition sake then.

think grassroots.

the Olympics started out as a single short footrace.

sure there are problems, opportunities as we call them in this field. until its thought out, there will be issues.

keep in mind that C77 has more members than IDSA, there is quite a bit of power behind that. theres no real money behind C77 and it keeps providing, learning, evolving.

the only real issue behind organizing it, is well, who does the organizing… who really has the time. a pipe dream perhaps?

Dell recently had a competition where they had online contest site visitors vote and choose the winner

travis baldwin

Has anyone tracked the market success of these award wining designs? As product designers, if it doesn’t sell, at best it is art , not product. At worst it’s intellectual masturbation.

We, or our self appointed representatives, have recently stated that for every $100 spent on design, Companies see a $220 or something return (forgive me if I don’t have the figure right) and that we add value. Clearly NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.

So what is good design? A good design can go unremarked in the market due to bad marketing, ahead of it’s zeitgeist or bad business strategy. similarly a bad design can be marketed down the consuming public’s throat.

I like the idea of a Razzies design award to compliment the good id award. that would be, I think harder, to weed out all the bad to find the truly awful.

As a starting point go back over all of business weeks IDEA winners and track the market success, ROI or some other metric that has meaning and score their success.

OK Rant over discuss among yourselves

It would be sweet if this thing shredded business cards from annoying sales-people and then re-compressed the waste into new cards printed with your own details.

I like this, reminds me of “Mr. Fusion.” Business cards printed on demand, using any available paper. Imagine feeding a a few napkins, a starbucks coffee sleeve and an awful page from your sketchbook in and out pops 5 (still warm) business cards, each one unique. Take the post out of post-consumer recycling!

So what happens when the consuming public, which we also belong to, chooses something we think is poorly designed and runs with it? Does it become “good design” or is the public wrong lol? what about the projects that win the contests, and are heralded as the golden children of design, and then fail. Like the OLPC for instance, I think it may be evolving into a successful product over time, but at the beginning, didn’t the guys who came up with it say themselves that it wasn’t successful when held to its own matrix of success?

And how about that damn kindle? we all tore it to pieces right away and I still think it is the design equivalent of “art brut” (art by children or the feeble minded) but it hasn’t gone away. I think that provoked such a reaction that we even researched and found out the actually people who designed it, and pointed out that they were engineers and not designers. Sort of an attempt to separate and vilify them. Point is though, its still for sale, and amazon is apparently selling digital books for it. Some people actually like it. Sony has a similar product that the sales guy tried to convince me was the best thing since sliced bread. Who am I to tell him it looks like joke?

The problem with a Core 77 competition is their new link to BusinessWeek - who is linked with IDSA’s little competition. Bad juju.

What about a C77 Forum Member design award. You can’t even submit for it. We just pick a handful of products to give it to a year. Flip the script a bit. An award by designers for designers.

How about judging a design by how well it is accepted by consumers in sales? Like sales ranking for books, I envision something that tracks total sales worldwide. Maybe the UPC code is registered and tracked? This way it could be free recognition in a way and the proof is in the pudding because it is based on how many people buy and use it. If anyone tries to load this competition, they would have to buy a ton of their own product and that would require millions of dollars. =) That’s a deterrent to cheating…

Yo: We almost do that already. Just look at what people are talking about positively. I think we could send the first trophy to BMW.

On the other hand, I guess we could award joke prizes to the design losers. Maybe we could send one of those trophies to the people at Red Dot?

This is the second best selling item on in the “Home & Garden” category, which includes furniture and appliances. Not an award winner from a design perspective. I know because my wife just bought one last month.

Sales does not always equal high design.

If that vaccuum was the first one to look like that back in the 80’s? early 90’s? than it should have gotten an award, as it would have been a revolutionary step forward from the mean looking metal ones like in the brave little toaster that hotels use.

damn consumers we spend all this time making all this cool stuff for them, like a gift, and what do they do? buy the cheapest, ugliest thing they can find. No one gets us… lol