Chat-gpt: make me a render of a lumpy limo with a rice-boy style kit from the '90s attached.
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I see comments are being deleted from that nonsense Core77 article. So much for discussion.
I wonder if BMW paid for the post?
I saw your comment, think I gave it an up arrow.
What’s the word for some body part that continues to exists but has no use? The “grille” area on the new ‘i’ cars at least could now be construed to serve an actual purpose, address some human need beyond ego projection (which is really all that car styling is, plus driving sales).
Vestigal.
I’m OK with a non-functional (for airflow purposes grille).
I just don’t see why it has to be ugly and why BMW designers need to toss out layers of bullshit trying to pretend it’s not.
Fun activity: Go go to any official BMW post announcing a new model on the social media channel of your choice and read the comments. 
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Oi, don’t blame engineering 
Purchasing, they will be behind that monstrosity
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So, Dukec’s out and being replaced by two designers, he goes to Rolls.
Max Missoni from Polestar will do the 5 series and up.
Oliver Heilmer from Mini does the rest.
source please
I think rearranging the deck chairs is not enough to save BMW.
They’ve over invested in southern California which has been drained of any present or future innovation. The studio creation in Santa Monica was the beginning of the end. The outpost in Newberry Park has lost its luster and has become an institution to support the legacy of Chuck Pelly rather than a lens to focus the future for the brand. It has become the source of BMW’s cancer.
In North America, I’d be looking for new studio space in Texas, Nevada or Florida rather than clinging to the twentieth century.
BMW’s Design Team Gets a Massive Shake-Up. Will This Fix Things? (thedrive.com)
they say their new products will be out in 2029
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Why not design them in shock Germany?
The infill between the squares could be air-filled tubes, so that they would bulge outward when pressed together. That would solve that issue.
I.e. flat when neural, concave when stretched, convex when compressed.
Oooooh, an E30 Estate! Beautiful. I think they mostly sold in Eastern European Countries.
BMW’s with built in gun slots (like Rolls’ umbrella door shafts), BMW’s with built in/ fold down card tables and BMW’s with outboard motors for watercraft fun. As long as they don’t have those bucktooth grilles it’d be an improvement.
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You forgot the rolling coal exhaust. I’m sure they can simulate that on EVs, right?
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That would be so cool! Big puffs of vapor, acting as smoke.
haha not going to work unless they plan on founding Artcenter 2.0 there
Seriously. Wtf are you talking about?
Sales leader in the US for luxury cars - https://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-topped-mercedes-audi-volvo-in-america-all-were-beaten-by-just-one-very-small-brand-245221.html
I parked behind a BMW i4 today. It’s grown on me a little. It’s like an average idea, well executed. The thing that seems to make it dumpy (my prefered term) is the lack of chrome. Mercedes still has chrome, what is the idea with all this black gloss plastic on the BMWs? It looks like a 2000 Ford.
Haha true! same reaction… Mercedes does something similar on some new models but on close inspection I notice they put a lot of cameras and sensors in those large black glossy parts around front and rear bumped and mirrors/sides. The shiny black CMF tends to hide the sensors/lenses better i think (especially if there’s 4-6 sensors/cameras on a panel). Just a guess, but all the cameras and sensors and large plastic panels might be driven by individual car companies to build their own detailed Digital Twin like the way Tesla has.
As for chrome, maybe it’s an upsell option in the website to have traditional chrome trim around the windows?