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US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005
by Adam Stutz • Wednesday January 28, 2004 at 09:50 AM

The current agenda of the US federal government is to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on “terrorism.” Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 – conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election!

Reinstatement of the draft

Dear Friends and Family,

I urge you to read the article below on the current agenda of the federal government to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on “terrorism.”

Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 – conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election! But the administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed NOW, so our action is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

If voters who currently support U.S. aggression abroad were confronted with the possibility that their own children or grandchildren might not have a say about whether to fight, many of these same voters might have a change of mind. (Not that it should make a difference, but this plan would among other things eliminate higher education as a shelter and would not exclude women – and Canada is no longer an option.)

Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents… And let your children know – it’s their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren’t telling their constituents about these bills – and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they’re not covering this important story.

The Draft*

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: to view the SSS Annual Performance Plan - Fiscal Year 2004.

The Pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide… Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of Congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld’s prediction of a “long, hard slog” in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on “terrorism”] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R. 163 forward this year, entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, “To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18–26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.” These active bills currently sit in the Committee on Armed Services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the US signed a “Smart Border Declaration,” which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov. Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a “pre-clearance agreement” of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their cur-rent semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

*This article by Adam Stutz is from the “What’s Hot Off the Press” column of the newsletter of Project Censored, a media research group at Sonoma State University that tracks the news published in independent journals and newsletters. From these, Project Censored compiles an annual list (more than 20 years running) of 25 news stories of social significance that have been overlooked, under-reported, or self-censored by the country’s major national news media. The mission of Project Censored is “to educate people about the role of independent journalism in a democratic society and to tell The News That Didn’t Make the News and why.”

“What’s Hot Off the Press” includes student synopses of articles currently being investigated for inclusion in the next Project Censored report. For more info and/or to receive Project Censored’s newsletter, go to, or email [censored]

Don’t beleive it yet? Go to U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records and search for “S 89”, then later search for “HR 163” where it says “By Number” and you’ll find the articles.

Aggression abroad, oh God :unamused:

Having to serve your own country and give some payback to all of the freedoms for which you enjoy… heaven forbid!

That said a draft is bad for other reasons: we don’t need lazy people and pacifists in the Army. That won’t do us any good but cause more problems.

There should definately be some kind of required service by all Americans though. I think that all kids leaving high school should have to:

A. Join the military
B. Join the Peace Corps
C. Join some kind of National community service program for two years

Then maybe we would develop more of a sense of service, pride, and selflessness in this nation, rather than the self-righteousness, apathy, constant complaining, and lack of service-above-self growing in this country.

So send that on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents… And the kids know – it’s their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change!

Guest I totally agree with you. Too many of us americans were born with a silver sppon in our moths and know nothing of what this freedom really costs. Few ever know how much the military personal must endure on a dayly basis to make the average american feel safe and secure, and protect their right to protest and bad mouth the military for doing so.

Maybe we should close down all the military bases, fire all polititians and police officers, then we will see how fast these idealistic morons come calling for law and order to be put back. Or maybe we send them to a middle eastern country were they would be shot, tortured, aand/or locked away in prison for the rest of their lives for simply disagreing with the political leader in power that week.

I equate these morons to the morons of PETA who in the late 80’s would go around to dairy and beef farms to release the cattle…well morons these breeds of cattle have been domesticated longer than dogs, and have totally lost their abilities to fend for them selves. My father and grandfather lost over 100 head of dairy cattle between 1987 and 1990 due to these “raids”. The cattle would be let out…chased out of the pasture right into the marshy river bottom were they would get stuck in the mud, and break their legs. Way to go PETA you killed more cattle that you saved!!!

Every young person in this nation should have to learn the value of our freedom by…er…fighting as a soldier in some middle eastern country to, er, protect freedom, and er, save us from the imminent threat…er.
To help unseat a tyrant! That’s it! This tyrant was evil, and he killed a lot of people. That’s why we, erm, invaded and killed a bunch of people…er…to free them.

Nevermind that we forgave Pakistan’s Military Dictatorship for sneaking nuke secrets out to North Korea and Iran and Libya, or that we granted China most favored nation status in the Clinton years or that we could always have started with frigging Cuba if we suddenly decided it was nation liberating time.

We unseated a tyrant!! I would have loved to be drafted for this glorious task myself, if it wasn’t for the old football injury. It would do young people no end of good to see what the price of freedom is. FREEDOM

Just remember it’s got nothing to do with oil. No siree, nothing. And the Halliburton connection doesn’t exist. Nothing suspicious there. Nope.

Maybe instead of design being about putting further good agendas design should above all put further all agendas in a classic western humanistic perspective.

Please keep in mind that Bush does not represent a classic conservative republican perspective nor does he obviously represent a classic liberal democratic viewpoint.

The real problem with this discussion is that graduates from some of US News and World Report top ten graduate design schools cant possibly follow, nor particvipate in it.

We need to understand and once again partake in concepts of liberal. not oligarchy.

i put forth good agendas.
I good designer


designers onlyn think inside the box. Maybe this discussion belongs on a board with thinking people.

Uh, WTF??? I have no idea what to make of this. Dumb viewer trying to be intelligent and condescending (BTW: you failed) or dumb person trying to be clever with some sort of pathetic attempt at satire (you failed). Designers only think inside the box??? Hello jackass we’re one of the greatest professions of creative thinking… except for you.

Use of the term “Jack Ass” shows no creativity, instead just building off cliches. Instead of name calling and negative tyrants why not try to logically attack the statement.

The point of the discussion obviously stands. “JACKASS” or not.

WHAT is GOOD & What is BAD? Who decides? Can we discuss this?

PS: atleast try and come up with a username other than “guest” how much more in the box can you get. Further if you retort, please try 2 be clever & creative, almighty GOD.

they wanna bring back the draft cuz the youth in america today are a bunch of pussies that dont want to join the military cuz we’re at war.

I miss the old Core discussion board.


I am not american, so therefore I do not have to be ‘drafted’ but I disagree with the draft for a few reasons:
-Military in the states is like a huge company, tons of money, the largest in the world. America is simply just wanting to become more powerful, dominant, or simply try to extend resources for iraq and terrorism (these will continue for many years, dont wanna run out of soldiers).

-The whole ‘pussies’ argument is just ignorant. There are many young soldiers out there risking their lives. But if i disagree with the reasons for war, making me fight in it is not gonna solve the problem.
If you threaten my life, my family, etc then pussyness fades away. But asking me to fight for shady agendas? i have better things to do.

  • i think it all comes down to the ‘reasons’ for war. Many other industrialized countries dont have an enormous powerful army, nor do they draft. Why? because their decision making and foreign policy isnt as aggressive, controlling or pro-active like american policy is. You choose your battles, and if america chooses a lot of them, they just feel the need for more manpower.

Also, the idea that we have to ‘fight for our freedom’ is ironic, simply because the so called ‘freedom’ is simply taken away by forcing us to do things against our will.

just my 2 cents

Be informed.

Both sides employ Scare Tactics. In the case of the draft it is the Democratic Party’s Scare Tactics aimed at trying to get youth to vote in their favor. The Bill was sponsored by Sen. Ernest Hollings, a Democrat from South Carolina in the Senate and Democrats Charles Rangel, Jim McDermott, John Conyers, John Lewis, Peter Stark and Neil Abercrombie in the House.

The Charles Rangel (D) bill calling for reinstitution of the draft failed 402-2 on Wednesday. Rangel (D) didn’t even vote for it. Sounds like someone’s wasting people time. 402 to 2…

Read this. Don’t need a draft but if we do they can vote again
I say party hard die young and leave a nice corpse

On October 5, 2004, the House of Representatives voted 402 - 2 to defeat
H.R. 163, the bill cited as proof that the Selective Service was preparing
to reinstate a military draft. The vote made official what has been a
reality since January 7, 2003, when H.R. 163 was introduced despite nearly
total opposition in Congress to restoring the draft. Without Congressional
support, the draft cannot be reinstated. A similar bill languishes in the

Both President George W. Bush and Senator John F. Kerry have stated for the
record that they oppose a draft. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also has
opposed the draft on numerous occasions.

Since 1980, the Selective Service System has discharged its mission of
preparing to manage a draft if and when Congress and the President so
direct. The House action proves that the Selective Service has gotten no
such direction. That being the case, the Agency will maintain its readiness
as required by law, and to register young men between the ages of 18 and 25.
That mission has been reaffirmed frequently by successive Administrations
and by Congress under the leadership of both parties.