Hi Sean. You seem a little troll-ish, but what the hell, its lunch, I’ll play,
Better that than a yuppy
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Sustainable Design - somehow it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
I recommend a wintergreen Tic-Tac.
Another way to disguise the taste?
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and seems that the methodology is simply assauging designers guilt.
I believe “Guilt-free design” was coined by someone at IDEO. So what?
Are you Catholic and enjoy guilt?
On this side of the pond we’re a little less tied done by all that old school religion, the yuppy religion with their fairtrade and ‘eco’ tourism is the new fight
Bottom line is designers want to stay in a job and earn money
Livin’ the dream my friend, livin’ the dream.
Yeah, but it would be nice if my grand kids could have a bit ot the dream left over,
they produce desirable products which produce dissatifaction and generate consumption
Incorrect. Have you been to Wal-Mart or lately? Please rethink why the consumption is generated.
Incorrect. Consumption is the Brief from the overweight felines to maintain their profits. The new iphone creates dissatifaction with the old iphone and it is replaced, Tescos [our Walmart] sell people the economy version of the desirable. Consumption beyond subsistance would be minimal without the badvert generated dissatisfaction.
consumption is not sustainable.
Incorrect. Over-consumption is not sustainable. I’ve got 4+ billion years of consuming life to back me on that one.
Pedant
Simply put, the yearly sales figures for consumer products does not tally with the possible life cycle of those products
Woohoo, less guilt for designers and engineers. Guilt can be shared with sales and marketing because they also contribute to producing dissatisfaction and generating over-consumption in less time of the possible life cycle of those products.
Or you could simply put your head in the sand with the scientists who say they have no responsibility if their technologies end up in WMDs - we’re all in this together
how many of you have a phone more than 5 yrs old or a car more than 10?
My land-line is 7 years old. My wireless is only 4 years old but going strong. My car is 12 years old. My commuting bicycle is 40 years old. What’s yer point?
And I hope that gives you I nice warm glowwy, smug feeling being in such a tiny minority - on average people replace their mobile phones every 12-18 months [source - my mate who runs the local Orange shop]
electric cars aren’t going to “save the planet”, reducing car miles is - electric cars simply maintain consumption.
Incorrect. Electric cars provide a means to transfer energy consumption from fossil fuels to wind/solar over the next 50(?) years. Oil won’t last forever and we can’t change overnight. You need a first step at some point.
So the badverts do work - I presume these are the electric cars which grow on trees and aren’t manufactured in the same factory as the petrol cars and sold by the same companies who will make bloody sure Mr A.V.Ridge is replacing it every 3 or 4 years which run on electricity which gets into the batteries by osmosis and not through a massive energy infrastructure run by the car makers mate. Zero emmisions? which advertising house did that one come from
Surely we should be simply talking about lowering impact of our consumption?
Kind of vague. Lower it by how much? What is the end goal? What are the trade-offs when the impact is lowered?
Simply a different title for the methodology - Low Impact Design rather than Sustainable Design.
Be a bit more honest about our intentions?
Who is being dishonest? Post your source.
This isn’t an academic discussion - attaching the term Sustainable Design to a mass consumption, rapid replacement product is disingenuous because the current consumption trends cancel out all those strategies.
Sean
Correct.
How do you know?
Mildred