Should I design for free?

I went to this company for a job interview last week. We sat down and he looked through my portfolio briefly then asked if I can submit 2 renderings of ceiling fans designs (for no pay). Since I have no ceiling fans in my portfolio, I guess I could understand why he wanted to see if I do the job. He went on talking about how their company paid lots of money in royalties to freelance designers.

Doing a couple of renderings is not a big deal to me. The potential gain definitely outweighs losses. What I am concerned about is being taken advantage of. I noticed this company advertises frequently on job sites. They may be asking all interviewees to submit work for the possibility of getting a job. I really need a job but I’d hate to find out that by giving them free designs, I might be helping them scam designers.

What do you think I should do in this situation? Do you think what this company asks for is reasonable? I’d appreciate your feedback!
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as far as i am concerned there is nothing wrong with asking a prospective employee to sketch on something relating to my core business. however, i would never ask to keep a copy.

if you are really in need of a job, do some sketches, show them that you can design ceiling fans or whatever they are into but just don’t let them keep copies of your designs. if they insist on keeping them there could be something fishy going on.

If they insist on keeping them tell them your price. I remember back in the mid 80’s a exibit company ask me to do a sample for an internship. They paid me for the work eventhough it was just a test.

Host the sketch on a password protected folder on your website. Disable the Right Click so that they can only see the image and not steal it. Change the password or delete picture after a week or so

Disable the Right Click so that they can only see the image and not steal it.

Even though the right click is disabled, images can be screen captured or just copied off your system’s cache.

By the way, I spent the majority of a weekend drawing up concepts for a potential employer & I’ve been here for 2 years gettin’ paid phat. I didn’t enjoy it but it paid off. Actually, I did it for the job before too and that was worth it.

I still take a peek at em’ in my files from time to time and think it’s pretty good stuff. If it wasn’t I’m sure I wouldn’t be here today. I’m sure they made the same request to 10 other candidates that didn’t quite make the cut. Even though the employer has sketches and concepts in their hands doesn’t mean it’s going to be manufactured or is even capable of being manufactured.

…so anywho, does this help you any?

Monkey-Do Productions, ST Louis MO?

Similar requests have been made to me in the past…

I would agree with hkp. Hang on to the sketches, renderings, etc, unless they’re prepared to pay you for your time and effort. Regardless of whether or not they are manufacturable at that stage, they are still your intellectual property.

My experiences have been resolved both ways. One company wanted to hang on to my work, but didn’t think they should have to pay to own it. I hung on to those ideas. Others have paid for the ideas I generated, and developed them further internally.

I will say that they will probably NOT OFFER to pay for them, you’ll just have to bring that up on your own.

It’s easier said than done to show your work, and then take it off the table and walk away, but many companies don’t see the value in what we do. As a company, I would imagine it is hard to justify spending money on product development if they see that they can get free ideas from prospective employees during the interview process. Hopefully they respond well to the fact that you value your work.

If a company I was looking to work for didn’t see eye to eye with me on a situation like this, I’m not so sure I’d want to work for them.

Good luck.

Who has any info on Monkey-Do Productions, ST Louis MO?

what do you want to know?

one man rip-off, design for peanuts shop.

I’ve never heard of Monkey-Do Productions, ST Louis MO?

monkey-see Monkey-Do even sounds RINKY-DINK. I sure would not use anyone with that name!

“Even though the right click is disabled, images can be screen captured or just copied off your system’s cache”

Let’s seeeee… Or you can get a digital (film) camera and get a photo of it. Or you can let some of your designer trace it and make a detailed drawing and have it engineered. Haha, there are ways, are there?? Plus, there are softwares you can use to download the whole site, the whole thing, hahaha

Just some funny comments.

sites can be set up not to allow download by dreamweaver. also will not allow printing or screen capture. Our firms site is set up like that. If they print, download, or screen capture they get a page that shows, Sorry Copywrited. I think it is stupid personally becuase then prospective clients can not print out our past works for refernce

Both ratarded, all you have to do is drag images off to your desktop or CTRL+Prt Sc
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Every time I hit the Ctrl + Print Screen button my boss comes over to my office & tells me to quit printing out porn on the network printer by his office. LOL

and the show has reached an all-time low…

I’d be curious to see this site that can’t be screen captured…can you post a link?

Monkey Doo.
I did work for ***** *** but I made a decision for myself being. I left and realized that they do not have or work with 3d software and its all hand drawings and sometimes manipulated in photoshop. Its an experience that will not help you much… to get a job in a consultancy. So I left and now I work for a consultancy. I realized it was the best for developing my ID career. The way I look at it is, when their main designer only has a sculpture degree you do not want to be in that house, you want to be with Industrial Designers. For me it worked out for the best…and some say if you work for them to long you get stuck in a corner…the longer you stay the harder it is to get into the consultancy world…because by then most of your recent work is all the same…just front views of fans and blades… thats why they have so many open adds they need some one who will want to work for them for years to come.
Go ahead and experience it yourself. You might even like it. Once your in… you get paid possibly 50k a year for just doing that.
JACK

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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: brainstorming


guest wrote:
“Even though the right click is disabled, images can be screen captured or just copied off your system’s cache”

Let’s seeeee… Or you can get a digital (film) camera and get a photo of it. Or you can let some of your designer trace it and make a detailed drawing and have it engineered. Haha, there are ways, are there?? Plus, there are softwares you can use to download the whole site, the whole thing, hahaha

Just some funny comments.


Both ratarded, all you have to do is drag images off to your desktop or CTRL+Prt Sc
r “”

HEY, do u know how to read??

CTRL+Prt Sc is called screen shot or screen capture. I know that 10 yrs ago, and the first “guest” dude mentioned it already. The comments I made was just trying to make a few laughs. I guess someone don’t get the humor.

What can i do? haha

BTW, if you want to cheat, there are 100 other retarded working methods i can tell ya.