Does anybody knows by chance what is happening at http://www.productdesignforums.com/?
It seems to be that they are out of the business.
This is the message from the web hosting.
The account is currently not active.
Its a pity because the site idea has potential and there is a community behind it already, at the distance looks like a technical or a payment problem. It has been down for days now.
Any ideas?
Regards
Jose
To my knowledge it’s an issue with the server/hosting company. At the moment I believe waikit is in China and he’s the one who handles the hosting, so until he has time to address the issue the site is MIA.
Hopefully it won’t be too much longer, but I haven’t contacted them so I have no idea on the status outside of that.
I do not agree how things are being done at that forum. Waikit couldn’t care less about the members of the community and is not the first episode I notice this.
Its a pity that such a great asset is in the hands of someone who is not at the height of the circumstances.
Thanks for the answer.
Have you tried volunteering there?
Yes, I wouldn’t be saying such thing if not. Unfortunately my areguments are “not active”. My idea is not to open a debate, everyone has the chance to choose its own politic on its own ground however it has not been vey helpfull to close the doors to contributors like myself. The resulst are more than obvious.
I’m sorry you feel that way, but you need to keep in mind running a forum can be a very big headache, and it comes with growing pains. No one is being PAID to run that forum, any money/revenue that comes from advertising gets dumped back into hosting. People get busy, it’s just how life goes. If you’re stuck in the middle of a project at work the least of your worries will be getting your forum up and running. It’s also entirely possible that the hosting company is doing something thats preventing the site from coming back up.
I understand your frustration but unfortunately theres not much that can be done. There has been a lot of behind the scenes talk about how to actively improve the forum, including asking all of the members what their thoughts were. If he couldn’t care less none of those things would have happened.
The site will be back when it’s back…unfortunately thats all I know for now.
you need to keep in mind running a forum can be a very big headache, and it comes with growing pains. No one is being PAID to run that forum, any money/revenue that comes from advertising gets dumped back into hosting. People get busy, it’s just how life goes. If you’re stuck in the middle of a project at work the least of your worries will be getting your forum up and running. It’s also entirely possible that the hosting company is doing something thats preventing the site from coming back up.
Agree 100% on this.
What pisses me off is this we_don’t_need_your_contribution_thanks shit. I could have worked for free, instead I hardly visit the forum. You are going to face tough times if you guys believe that only some elected contributions are welcomed. Unfortunately your vision of how a community on how the Internet works is limited.
I’m not sure what you’re considering work here. Did you want to be on the moderation staff (where all we really do is delete spam and move posts)? If so I can see being turned down as theres already plenty of mods to keep things under control. There were no elections, people who contribute frequently were asked to help moderate (the more time you spend online, the better chance there is you’ll catch something inappropriate while other mods might be at work or asleep).
Did you want to do software development for the actual website itself?
You seem particularly bitter about this and I’m not entirely sure what the reasoning is behind it. Did you ask to be a mod and get turned down?There are only limited resources for the site, so if you have a specific idea/suggestion for improving things then it would be better suited to be posted on the site when it returns – again, this is why a few months ago we asked publicly for site suggestions and made changes – adding a wiki, featured topics, newsletter, etc that were feasable at the time.
We’ve listened to all suggestions, some simply aren’t entirely feasable unless you’ve got a substantial knowledge of forum software and PHP…and even then, giving an outsider access to the entire hosting account is a seperate issue (none of us have access to any of that).
Sofware development?
As there is none legal information I suggested to add a legal forum at suggestions and had no answer. You just posted a google patent link and that was my only answer.
Then I gently offered myself to write a PPA road map for those who don’t know where to start and I was answered by another mod that it was going to be taken into consideration by the owner in this case waikit and had no answer neither.
Finally and a little disappointed on the lack of feedback I pointed out the issue to waikit publicly and his answer was that my contribution was not needed so I changed my mind about being disappointed to be pissed off to the point of regretting my participation at the forum not to mention you will regret part of my work at your service too.
Cut the crap Cyberdemon you only welcome the work of top designers with amazing sketches period.
I am really sorry I had came to this point. I just live with my ideals thats all.
Clearly you’ve been pissed off to an effect more than a website should have.
I’m frankly kind of offended.
Ok so we didn’t create an entire new forum for legal matters. Reason being is that there could be DOZENS of additional forums that would be relevant, but the complaint we had from other members was “theres already too many forums, make them MORE concise”.
If you wanted to make a thread on legal matters then why didn’t you DO IT? No one stopped you from creating a post discussing your knowledge of the subject. You could have just as easily started your own thread and called it “Joses Patent Fun” and that would have been completely acceptable and I’m sure plenty of people would have had things to add to it. Just because you didn’t get your own forum doesn’t mean that you couldn’t post about it.
As far as anything waikit said to you, I’m not him. I don’t know him. In fact outside of him saying to me at one point “hey you’re on here all day, want to be a moderator?” I’ve never had a 1 on 1 conversation with him. Given the fact that he takes plenty of his own time to set up the forum software, handle the hosting, organize the competitions and sponsors, etc I have absolutely no right to criticize him even if the hosting issue should have been resolved by now. Everyone gets busy…for all we know he doesn’t even have computer access and has no idea about this issue.
And to call me out personally? I only welcome the work of top designers with amazing sketches? Thats BS. I joined the forum as a student because I sucked at drawing and it came off as a good place to learn and get feedback. I’ve given far more attention to the people who are TERRIBLE at sketching and trying to improve, the people who are already amazing don’t need any help. I sit around researching computers, hardware, and software specifically so when someone asks “what cad software should I use” I can give them an answer – most people would stop giving a crap after they answered the same question dozens of times and just use the “Do a search noob” line, but I’ve tried to be as helpful as possible because thats the help I wish I would’ve had early in my education.
If you’re being burdened by a web site that badly, then you need to re-evaluate your use of the computer. It’s a publicly run forum, just like Core77. If you are that upset with it then perhaps you should invest your time and start your own forum and do things the way you think they need to be done.
Cut the crap Cyberdemon you only welcome the work of top designers with amazing sketches period.
You are right this looks like I am taking it on you personally and is wrong I shouldn’t have written this but it is late now. “you” was ment as an entity and not as a person. I am aware of your efforts and I know you don’t work like this I apologise. I have to take distance from your person which in this case is not in matter. Sorry.
If you wanted to make a thread on legal matters then why didn’t you DO IT? No one stopped you from creating a post discussing your knowledge of the subject. You could have just as easily started your own thread and called it “Joses Patent Fun” and that would have been completely acceptable and I’m sure plenty of people would have had things to add to it. Just because you didn’t get your own forum doesn’t mean that you couldn’t post about it.
It depends on how you face it however I will take it into account. It is the first suggestion on the matter that I hear so it might be a good start. Maybe none of this ugly conversation woudn’t taken place if I had a different advice on the first, secont and third place. I just hope we can discuss in the future on a different level rather than the one I started here which I agree is not in a good tone.
If you’re being burdened by a web site that badly, then you need to re-evaluate your use of the computer. It’s a publicly run forum, just like Core77. If you are that upset with it then perhaps you should invest your time and start your own forum and do things the way you think they need to be done.
I have a personal opinion that when you take a desition of involving people in your project you have to be prepared to face feedback and comments when you certainly stop providing that service.
There was a time when I felt very confortable at the forum and participated actively. I simply carn’t believe the way I was answered like my help it is not needed when is evident that any help is needed. I could have been a friend of yours (I now mean the entity you belong to like I should have pointed above) but unfortunately I have become an enemy because is too late.
What’s done is done and it carn’t go back.
Sorry you feel that way. Best of luck on your Core77 stay.