ID'er looking for some engineering learning

Here’s the deal … I have a bachelors in ID and have had a job in the industry for about 3.5 years, but would like to be able to dive deeper into the product development side. Ideally, a b.s. of ME would be perfect but I really don’t want to spend 3+ years solely devoted to school.

Has anyone heard of something reputable that would be workable in the 2 yrs and under range?

Any other creative ideas on what else may be out there? Filter out all the lame engineering classes and take just what i need?

Thanks guys…

what about a Msc? Over here I did a MA through independent study…where you write your own syllabus and assignments…so you could tweak it to suit what you want to learn. You do you guys have the open university over there?

What exactly do you want to learn? There are some engineering technology programs that lead to a bachelors as well as some that lead to associate degrees. They might be worth investigating. As for the “lame engineering classes,” all the subjects that Engineers take are vital to their understanding of the physical world around them and, most importantly, how to apply that understanding to real world problems. They are what separate the engineer from the pure scientist. So don’t discount those so called “lame” courses. They are just as important as the manufacturing, design, and material science/selection courses that I assume you are after. You could always pick up a few books and start reading on your own. I highly recommend the following two:

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Engineering-Technology-Serope-Kalpakjian/dp/0131489658
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Processes-Engineering-Materials-5th/dp/0132272717/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211474635&sr=1-1


Also learn some ProE if you haven’t already. Learn how to surface in it. These are the texts I’ve used and currently use:

http://www.cadquest.com

hey i got a admission in this course… check this out

http://www.liv.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught_courses/product_design_and_management_msc.htm
Product Design and Management - MSc (Eng)

all you really need is Pro/ENGINEER or Solidworks classes. When your an engineer at a major manufacture you really only use CAD 20 percent of the time. The majority of your time is spent on managing production and fixing problems in tooling.

I guess what i’m tiring to say is its more fun being designer than engineer and be careful what you ask for.

man up and do work! with the right engineering degree, it will far outperform your ID training in cash money. but… maybe your money would be better spent outsourcing the technical stuff --god forbid you’d sit through lame intro courses.

It probably is much more fun to be a designer, but if a designer is interested in developing stronger engineering skills what would you recommend?
I don’t understand how learning Solidworks or Pro/E will help acquire this knowledge. They are only tools and just because you know a tool does not mean you know the scope of its application.
Are there any books people would suggest?

take a physics class.

The more a mind has to juggle the harder it is to spit out iconic design. Thats why engineers with id masters degrees tend to be restricted or bogged down with to many details to make a good design. When I mentioned three d tools I was thinking that who ever touches the model last wins and those tools are strong for selling, proving, and communicating form… and the finished model.

I guess the study of plastics and manufacturing process with respect to materials would be good. But when a desinger gets to cought up on parting lines and such the design suffers. Its the team of id and me that makes powerful design. I guess thats what I was trying to say above.

By the way I just posted a neocon 2008 article on design-engine.com with large images of some of my faves from the show.