High School senior... where would you go..

Looking to go to art school for ID… love SCAD… I am an athlete so there is opportunity there… but… what is most important is career opportunity… I go to a high school with a intense art program… my portfolio has been looked at by Pratt and Savannah and they, although only informal… seemed to reall like it… is SCAD the place??

SCAD isnt a bad place to go for ID… just wouldnt consider it the best. It does have intercollegiate athletics which if you really want to play D3 sports then go for it. If you really want to go to a good design school go to one of the following:

In no particular order Cleveland Institute of Art, University of Cincinnati, CCS, or Art Center.

I havent worked with that many if any SCAD grads, and the work I see coming out of the school is very weak compare to the schools I mentioned. That doesnt mean you couldnt go there and set the world on fire, though.

We had a few graduates of SCAD come to our office (it think for an informational interview/portfolio review)

I wasn’t impressed with their work… And it wasn’t only a lack of skill set, but also a lack of direction. One was a graduate (I think 6 mo. or a year out) and one was graduating.

this is my only SCAD experience though, 2 students probably don’t tell the whole story.

The Art Institute of Ft. Lauderdale was good for me. There are a few very strong professors, and the curriculum is well rounded, not as “pretty” as some schools but very real world… If you go in with some skill, you come out with a bit more, and some knowledge

I havent worked with that many if any SCAD grads, and the work I see coming out of the school is very weak compare to the schools I mentioned. That doesnt mean you couldnt go there and set the world on fire, though.

that’s pretty much how I feel.

The school might not be as important, it’s the student’s drive and natural talent IMO.

University of Cincinnati has a surprisingly strong program in ID PLUS it has athlectic opportunities. Thus, you get the best of all worlds. It also has a strong, paid coop program where you will get some great experience in your field, However, you REALLY need to apply early. They want all applicaitons finished together with transcripts and SAT scrores submitted by Dec 1 at the latest and preferably by October 1.

Another good choice would be RISD. It is true that RISD doesn’t have a lot of athlectic opportunities,but you can participatre on Brown’s teams and club events.

My GPA is about a 2.7 but I have a strong portfolio… is the portfolio a major part of admissions at UC like it would be at an art school???

A portfolio is a very MINOR part of admissions at UC, meaning they don’t look at it at all. If your GPA and test scores don’t make the grade, but your portfolio is stellar, I would set up a meeting with people at the school of design and make your pitch. I’ve heard rumors/stories of that students gaining acceptance via that method in the past.

When I graduated from HS my GPA was in the 2.8 range. I am now a happily employed, Univ. of Cincinnati Alum.

I agree with Nate… talk to Dale Murray and the rest of the ID faculty and make it known that you want to be in the ID program. Most likely you wont be excepted right away.

I was rejected by DAAP 3 times (once as a HS senior, and twice as a freshman at UC). what i did and and what i recommend to you is that you go into Fine Arts as a Freshman. You’ll be in DAAP (just not design) and you’ll have a chance to beef up that GPA. Then transfering over as a Soph. wont be so hard.

and like anything else… the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

it makes your stay in college 6 years instead of 5, but its well worth it if you really want an education from Cincy and the opportunity to utilize the co op program.

Isn’t only looking at 2 schools kinda limiting? There are a lot of schools out there now. Since it’s August, I’m guessing that you are looking for Fall '07. Take the time, look around some more.

You say there are a “lot” of schools… maybe I am missing something. I am looking for an “ART” school that has ID. If I am not mistaken there does not seem to be a lot. I want a strong foundations program because I want to increase my ability as an artist. Many of the liberal art schools that have ID do not have foundations freshman year. I feel, from reading this site, that abilty to draw plays a pretty big role in design, I also feel I will have a fall back in the freelance world if I can’t break into ID instantly. I have looked at many art schools, from Boston to Florida, many do not have the ID piece, most have no athletic options at all… but reading all the SCAD info on accredidation is worrisome for my future…

I think I am more confused than ever with many new worries about what was my first choice… SCAD??[/i]

Ok Im a senior in highschool, Ive recently deicded that I really want to major in college field of design, whetther it be ID, Graphic Design, Comcmercial Art, Arch, or anything along those lines. But I havent really looked into the schools that much, Ive heard a good deal about the Uni of Cincinnati and of North Carolina.

I dont have a portfolio made yet because I only took Art 1 as it was a requied course. (our art program at my school isnt strong at all). I took mainly computer geared classes (webmastering, architectural graphics, and engineering grpahics). Now I was wodnering how important a strong portfolio was in applying? Im in the top 5% of my class. GPA - 3.7 My SAT scores arent extraordinary but they arent horrible Math-650 Reading-620 Writing-540. And hopefully plan to raise those up a bit as I only took it once Junior year.

Another thing is Im hoping to play college soccer aswwell, but only a few schools I have looked actually offer it, most only offer club/intermural soccer. Sorry to drag this on, but are there any strong ID schools in Texas, most of the major colleges here dotn seem to offer it, but maybe I missed one.

Thanks in advance

I also only took a couple of art classes in high school (Drawing 1, Painting 1, and then we had a portfolio independent study for seniors), I took mechanical drawing, design drawing, computer graphics… etc (my school had a better tech department than art department), but I was able to combine it all together to get a good folio…

As far as the school, are you going to school to be a soccer player or designer? Are you willing to sacrifice the quality of your education (and maybe your career) to play a game you will not play professionally?.. so I guess, which is more important to you?

I would ask the same questions about staying in Texas…

Focus on getting the best education you can, its a competitive world out there…

but are there any strong ID schools in Texas, most of the major colleges here dotn seem to offer it, but maybe I missed one.

you might check out the university of Houston they have a ID program, other than that there is not any in the state! head west young man.


Ok besides ID at UC, does anyone know anything about the Graphic Design program there?

dude… core77 is the “INDUSTRIAL design super site”… for graphics try http://www.AIGA.whatever

The following University of Cincinnati programs are annually in the top 5 (most of the time top 1 or 2) in the country:

Industrial Design
Fashion Design
Digital Design
Graphic Design
Interior Design
BA Architecture
MA Architecture

But I do agree… If you come to Core, expect to talk ID.

Thanks thats what I was looking for, I do know this is an industrial design site, i just figured since a couple of people knew quite bit aobut UC maybe they happned to know about the grpahic design program aswell.

UC has a strong graphic design, undergraduate program. Not only is it very good but you get 6 quarters of paid coop experience. UC is also less expensive t han many private art schools too since it is a state supported school.

As for the guy with a 2.7 HS GPA and great portfolio, UC is a very highly ranked school for industrial design HOWEVER, they are strangly very GPA and SAT oriented and don’t look at the portfolio as much.

Although they don’t require a portfolio, you should send it in. They will look at it. Your problem is your GPA. Sorry, you have no shot at getting in from high school. You would need to follow what someone said, which is to get admitted as an art student, work like a dog to get your GPA up, and then transfer into the program.

Another alternative would be to apply to schools that don’t require a high GPA and are very portfolio oriented. Stand alone art schools such as Art Center, SCAD, Pratt, Cleveland Institute of Art and VCU would be good alternatives. Frankly, I like SCAD the least of those mentioned due to their almost non-existant admission policies ( they admit almost anyone) and that they are not NASAD accredited. More importantly, no ranking of any type mentions SCAD’s industrial design program.


SCAD is a fully accredited institution; the accreditation it holds is from SACS.

We have alumni working at Procter and Gamble, Ziba, Design Edge, Electrolux, Smart, Target, Intel, Motorola, xPlane, Correct Craft, Hobbie Cat, Future Brand, Otto Bock, BMW Designworks, Ryobi, etc, etc, etc.

I encourage you to visit the school and talk to students who are presently enrolled, rather than basing your decision on either informal chat on the internet or rankings in some magazine.

I’ll be happy to answer any questions you may have about the program.

Jon Kolko
Professor, Industrial and Interaction Design
Savannah College of Art and Design

It is fully accredited by SACS, which is a regional affiliation, but it is not nationally accredited by the IDSA or or NASAD (National Association of Schools of Art and Design)

I think every time SCAD asserts it IS fully accredited (implying it is on the national level) it looses some accretion in my book.

from Why Art School Accreditation is Important | All Art Schools

National Association of Schools of Art and Design (NASAD):

Founded in 1944, the NASAD is an organization of schools, colleges, and universities. It establishes national standards for undergraduate degrees and graduate degrees and other credentials for schools of art and design…

…Schools will often only recognize credits earned at institutions holding the same level of accreditation. Graduates from programs at accredited institutions qualify to attend other accredited schools to pursue advanced studies, including MFA and doctoral programs. Most accredited schools will only recognize undergraduate credits as satisfying first-year requirements if they are from a non-accredited institution. Accreditation also affects transfer credits if you should relocate while in the progress of pursuing, for example, your MFA.