Electric Cars

What the hell is driving that MSRP? From the sedan’s description, it sounds like they are blowing their BOM on sensors and entertainment. They are truly marketing these cars for people who are afraid of driving and want to just… move in a safe little bubble.
”the car will be a relaxing, customizable comfort zone that happens to bring you places”

AND you can load-up artist’s interiors and lighting schemes which they will source and distribute via crypto-funded NFTs! :light_bulb: Wow

Watching a $60k Kia EV absolutely crush a new $350K v12 Ferrari on the track never gets old.

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Kia EV2…. full unveil coming Jan 9th.

Wow! Four door MacLaren!

I like the Kia, but since it is from Slovakia, I imagine we don’t get it in NA.

That Honda looks like they designed it ten years ago as a response to the Model S. So weird that no one has had the heart to kill it. Maybe the market will though!

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@Mr-914 at $100+k I assume it will be DOA. Aint no one got time for that.

Someone asked on BlueSky asked why the Cadillac Celestiq isn’t selling more? It’s a $400k Cadillac EV. The amount of people that can afford a $400k EV is very small, and then a very small percentage of them would even entertain spending that on a Cadillac when that it is the same price as the Rolls Royce Specter EV. I know which one I would pick.

Walks like a shooting brake, talks like a shooting brake. I believe there are 8 people in the world who like shooting brakes.

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I don’t know. If I had crazy money, I’d at least check it out.

It’s funny when I see articles with headlines like “manufacturers pulling back from EVs” because that is a completely US centric POV. Global brands are doubling down. Any global brand pulling back is destined to become a mere regional player.

Its true though, isn’t it? Ford is taking a $19B hit against earnings because they thought people would keep buying their $75,000 e-truck amongst other e-things that they got wrong. Most people just want to go from point-A to point-B without all the “I can power my tools plus my house” baggage.

Guess you’ll have to learn Mandarin or German, and read the headlines from N China Daily, or Speigel, to find the global headlines! The USA itself is on its way to becoming a ‘mere regional player’.

Wasn’t it one of the Agnelli (Fiat) family that said there would only be 3 car companies one day? I’m starting to think that there will be one or two Chinese companies, one in EU and Hyundai in 10 years. The Big 3 will either be bought or closed.

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You are correct that an e-truck is not worth the premium price over a ic-truck. But if you think it is something other than that, you are incorrect.

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Long but thorough walk through of the Brussels motor show

“Kia has confirmed it is ready to introduce a new halo model to its global lineup, following another record-breaking year for worldwide sales, speaking with AutoExpress. The Korean manufacturer’s rapid growth over the past decade has cemented strong market share across key regions, supported by a diverse portfolio of ICE and electric vehicles. Now, Kia believes the time is right for a flagship model that will define its future design philosophy and technological direction.”

I’m really hankering after a tiny cheap EV, something like the Dacia Spring or that new twingo!
We have an Audi A6, that’s great for the long drives, but now, since COVID, I pretty much work from home and I live in a tiny UK village, It’s a 17th century village, so not built for cars :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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The new Twingo is such a nice little design. I love it.

Weighing in at just 1,356 kg and packing a 320 kW (~

430 hp) electric motor, the Xiaomi-backed JMEV SC01 ditches the extras and keeps the essentials – so if you’re the kind of person that dreams of a self-driving future that lets you pay more attention to your Twitter X feed than the road ahead, this one’s not for you.

But if it is for you, I have fantastic news: this electric roadster is being sold in Europe (and it won’t stop there).

It’s rare for a new Chinese car launch to talk more about driving dynamics than infotainment and ADAS these days, but the new SC01 from Xiaomi-backed JMEV is different. Its marketing materials focus on the sporty EV’s tubular spaceframe chassis design that’s wrapped around a compact, 60 kWh (good for 500 km, or 310 miles of CLTC range), pushrod suspension system, and ultra light weight aluminum and magnesium wheels that weigh in at 5.9 kg (~13 lbs.) each.

The result is a car that, at 1,356 kg, weighs in at about 40 kg less than an ICE-powered Porsche Cayman GTS.

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The design could use some work and the greasy bits remind me of how cars were built in the 70s, but I’d take one.

I have another one: 2027 Jeep Recon. I can’t believe how cool this is! Lots of buttons inside too.

interesting. slightly cheaper R1S competitor. How’s Stellantis doing in the EV world?

who puts their bikes on TOP of SUVs anymore

The SC01 is definitely a little rough and ready as they say on the Great British Baking Show, but there is basically nothing else like it currently, so sign me up too :rofl:

RE Jeep Recon, the Bronco would have been so much cooler if it was electric. using the Bronco design language to debut something with all the true off-road capability an EV gives you (instant torque at the low end, precise movement at each wheel) would have been awesome… otherwise to me it’s kind of like an obsolete Ford Raptor in Bronco cosplay :man_shrugging:

But we will see how Jeep does with the Recon. I saw a lot of their Jeep Avenger EVs in Italy last year. Of course why would they send that to the US?