he is someone who followed his heart and ended up where he wanted, you douche.
btw, this non-registering thing is a pain, i always forget to log in so i post anonymous all the time!
Why not enable the automatic login? Saves you the trouble, even on multiple cpus.
Don’t have to worry about getting into CCS, cus they don’t really reject people’s application as long as your son has a decent portfolio. CCS gives scholarship based on the quality of the portfolio, and amount varies.
Also, CCS doesn’t have any co-op program, but it really is up to your son to work hard and fight for internships. I have 2 already, and I am planning to take another 2 next year. The career service is doing a good job bringing companies in, but ultimately, it really is up to the individual student to take the action.
if you are willing to let him be an auto designer, go for the big names like art center or royal, big names mean more resources, there is a reason they became “big names”. also, which school you go to does matter when you first got out of colloege and it also helps to build connections. after a few years of real world experience, your portfolio is all that matters
I couldn’t post here without plugging my own school, the CUSID. It’s Canadian, but recognized as one of the top ten (some say top 5) in North America. Also fairly old (founded in the early 70’s) compared to some other ones. Some of our graduates: the designer of the microsoft intellimouse; the designer of the new gatorade bottle; Karim Rashid, who’s quite the hot thing in ID today…
Our school is actually part of the faculty of engineering (includes ID, architecture and engineering), so you definitely don’t have to worry about it being an art school. The only problem (in your case) is that CID deals more with medical design and consumer product design than automotive. One student got a scholarship a few years back for redesigning the Nissan Murano, though…it’s a very well-rounded course.
Anyway, good for you for taking an interest in your son’s education. My parents did, and ID is better than anything I could have dreamed of. More work, too, but it’s all good.
Hope it works out!
the designer of the microsoft intellimouse; the designer of the new gatorade bottle
Owner of the firm, not nessisaraly the designer. In Fact I highly doubt he has had any board time over the last few years. The firm receives the work becuase they are dialed into a niche market. Clients who want and demand thier designs to be backed up with firm, concise, and complete research pertaining to ergonomics and usability. I will have to say it is a great firm, with great employees, and a strong and precise focus on the clients they are aiming for. That is why they did that work, not the school Bryce Rutter attended, although he has proven his briliance as a buisness man through attaing clients focused on maintaining innovation through design.
If he really wants a shot at being a car designer he will need to go to Art Center in Pasadena or CCS in Michigan. The universities are good for product design but to get a real shot at being a car designer he needs the exposure those “scary” art schools have as they are very connected to the automakers. He can always fall back on the education and use the skills as a product designer, exhibit designer, movie production/special effects designer, etc. Car design jobs are few and far between but if he is really passionate chances are he will be good at it.
Philadelphia University is really evolving into a good ID program. I don’t know how anyone can say anything about it unless they have first hand experience and I do. The professors are producing good work in the field and are very caring. The classes are small. The motivated students will certainly achieve success. I’ve seen some very good work come out of there.
Although still a new program, Virginia Tech is worth looking into. The program has gotten progressively better. This is not an automotive design school however it is good for general industrial design. The program provides a thorough background in design methodology and history. If you are looking to be “trained†this is not the school for you. If you are self-motivated and really want to learn design the school could be a good fit.
i like the way yo edits out any critisim of himself on this site.
his simple nth american sycophantic “good onyas” are so patronising even oprah would blush
how funny that this observation is contained only in his post (now that he has removed my original)
yo; mate, its so weak spined to edit out people’s opinions, although i know its the culture over there in america
weak
Well, don’t choose RIT, it’s a good school for product design and “rounded” education.
People still do attempt transportation projects, but they’re usually miserable looking. ( there were only 2 students that were good in that particular area ( in the past 3-4 years), I know one of them went to Royal College of Art after he got a degree from RIT to pursue his vehicle design passion, and I’m not sure what another one is up to.)
Hi Concerned Dad-
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the vehicle research program at Western Washingnton University. It’s an engineering program but from what I understand, is that they actually build and test their ideas. Gotta be something going on there.
My upstairs neighbor went there- I’ll ask him about it today.
Question for the car guys- The way the story goes is that auto design departments burn out their designers in 5-10 years. Is this a story? Can someone talk about the politics of working in car design?
sorry for all the edits, just trying to keep it on topic… and in the realm of reason.
Now you tell me. Ironically, my son decided and is now enrolled at RIT. After touring; College for Creative Studies, Cleveland Institute of Art, Pratt, RISD, Carnegie Mellon, Univ of Cinn, & Syracuse, he felt that RIT was the best fit for him. I think he made the right choice. My concern was that his obsession with car design was so great that it was placing blinders on him and prevented him from considering other areas of design. I am glad that he is now in a well rounded program. If, after a couple of years he is still set on auto design then he can transfer or enroll in a transportation design school.
The feeling I try conveying to him is that its better to be a successful designer/business owner who could buy all the toys that an auto designers could only wish for.
A special thanks to all who replied to this post. Good luck to all in your pursuits.
i am a recent ID grad from RIT and as far as transportation goes, the school doens’t have much to offer to help your skills grow specifically with cars. then again, a grad last year, (the only one i know of that focused on transportation) recieved job options from porsche and ferrari, but he was more self motivated and self taught than your average ID student. i think much of it will depend on how motivated the student is, but RIT is a good ID school, but not specifically for transportation.
i am a recent ID grad from RIT and as far as transportation goes, the school doens’t have much to offer to help your skills grow specifically with cars. then again, a grad last year, (the only one i know of that focused on transportation) recieved job options from porsche and ferrari, but he was more self motivated and self taught than your average ID student. i think much of it will depend on how motivated the student is, but RIT is a good ID school, but not specifically for transportation.
I’ve been reading the posts made since November last year and I wanna know if the automotive design field’s anything I actually want to get into. Since I was 11, it’s all i dream of. but ma parents (particularly my mother) finds it to be some childish fantasy that will never come true. like most kids, i want to rebel and prove her wrong. if i ever hope to enter this world, however, it’ll probable be difficult (jamaicans dont have that much cash), but it is what i love. hey, its a job i know i would do for free!! but she wants me to do law or medicine or some other boring crappy job that i know i don’t like (says i must make good use of my abilities, ya-da, ya-da, ya-da…). waddu think?
Go into transportation at your own risk. Economically the US auto industry is a mess and the world market isn’t much better outside of growing sales figures in China and India.
Based on energy outlooks alone there is no chance for continued growth in the auto industry.
You can also forget about designing electric car or hydrogen cars on any major scale because the world missed the oppoturnity to make a successful switch to those fuels decades ago. There simply isn’t any infrastructure to handle it and there is no money to build it. If the oil companies can’t even be pressured to build new refineries or drilling platforms, they are never going to build hydrogen production plants.
Likewise biofuels are net energy loser. It would take an enormous amount of energy from fossil-fuel based fertilizer and industrial production to grow and harvest enough plant material to produce fuel supplies to meet current or growing demands.
Unless you can come up with a car that runs on republican bullshit, you’re better off becoming a bicycle designer.
You’re breaking my heart man. You sound like my dad.
I guess he’s right, I just hate to admit that he is almost always right.
[quote=“ykh”]original post was interesting. what is a safe career anymore? engineering? i know alot of unemployed engineers. i wouldn’t want to be back in that field today. most now considering overseas work. new graduates get more competition from India and elsewhere. good engineering career in the U.S. afaic means post grad work. cutting edge stuff. research. grants. getting a PhD. 4 or 5 years is just not enough anymore.
think carefully about what you believe is best and what is really best. channeling him towards engineering if he isn’t interested means average grades.
→ Not just bad grades…but an unhappy adulthood and most likely, a less-than-stellar career. In fact, it’s somebody who doesn’t have any sort of motivation that’s ggoing to get the axe first.
I’m an engineer, and honestly, I never wanted to be one. And that’s reflected in the quality of my work today. It’s hard to do a great job if your heart is just not where it’s supposed to be.
no good post grad opportunity. no cutting edge job. and largely no relevance to automobile styling. he’ll wind up taking a job as low-level engineer, getting shipped to Asia half the year, and always wondering when the layoff will come.
if he’s serious, let him pursue his dream. directly. have faith in him. better that he fail having had your support, then failing on his own later. just my opinion.
→ A parent’s job is not to guarantee their child’s success. The only thing parents can do is to be supportive in hopes that their children will find their place in the world and be able to excel in what they love.