Computer interfaces


IBM keyboards are still sought after even today for their tacticle response. Nobody else makes a computer keyboard that “clicks” like an IBM keyboard does.

How is that bad design?

didnt say it was. only making note of comment. the Fujitsu is obviously ergo (and i’ve edited my first post appropriately).

rather than split hairs (which is what i was doing - apologies), is there a keyboard w both tactile feedback and formed keyboard? w more? have you tried? does it feel too odd? i also learned on a Selectric. not sure that feedback would work w arched keyboard.

I’ve used nothing but wheel-mice for “CADing” and can’t complain. I use this thing with Alias on a daily basis…

I would assume you can still buy this one since it is still on the Logitech website…

I should have been more clear.

The Fujitsu is not a split natural keyboard. It is based on the old clunky qwerty system invented for typewriters and optimized in the IBM Selectric. That said, the Fujitsus are tactile enough that I haven’t needed to switch to a different style, like the MS Natural designs.

Unlike other inexpensive keyboards, the Fujitsu is not mushy, with nicely dished keys and very good spacing and slope. Cheap is good if it doesn’t make things more difficult. The advantage is easy availability and inexpensive replacement.


@NATE - good to hear. thanks.

@PPD - understood what you were saying. mistake was in my original post. being specific re: “ergo”. you’ve obviously chosen tactility over form. both ergo issues. now wondering if combo exists. and whether its good.

apologies again. the combativeness here is infecting me.

nate thanks for the pic -

I use a apple wireless mouse and I am wondering how the two differ in grip and mobility, I found that with alot of my pc mice that it was harder to move around-true they were a lil more bulky-just wondering how this one performs and feels after a 4 yr usage…


  • also–anyone --a link maybe where i could see a list of prize awarded products ?

++ also does anyone know any links about mac design ( thought it would be ok to ask because we are talking about computer accessories and or other devices)- i am interested and wanted to do some research on the topic-


happened across a Razer review yesterday. ambidextrous is interesting.

sorry for size. hard to link.


I would go with a split ergo keyboard if you can stand it. When I got my current job they had ergo keyboards and it really bothered me, but now I think it is actually faster to type on and way more comfy.

Now I just need to get a mouse that works better, I had to do some very repetitive actions designing a flash website a while back and part of my hand went numb for several days. Thought it was carpal tunnel but it was in the wrong part of my hand. Luckily it went back to normal.

I love that design, but you know what, that battery indicator and the form languages say “Norelco” or “Braun.”

…Those companies should consider moving into peripheral design!
People would line up for a Braun designed keyboard and mouse!

(PS: I want some real metal for a change! Give my mouse some substance!)

Here’s the keyboard that goes with that mouse. Tight.

Apple’s got it goin’ on, but I hate using the damned mouse…

does anyone know of split/arched keyboard w tactile feedback? no idea if one is out there. yet.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject:

Been using RF wireless keyboards and mice for over 6 years now and love them. I have no intentions of ever going back. If I had the money, I’d pick up Logitech’s diNovo Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=7321 >

anyone seen the keyboards at the bose store? Who makes them, where to buy, opinions, etc?

If you really mean ergonomic, rather than what marketers are calling
ergonomic, take a look at Cornell’s research. For example,

(I believe item 2 should read “the designs usually FAIL TO
address the issue…”; it makes no sense as it stands.)

It was about a decade ago that I switched from the regular (“QWERTY”
or “Sholes”) keyboard to Dvorak. Though I’d studied touch typing
in high school circa 1962, and had used it ever since, I found I was
typing faster with the new layout within about a month or so!

But I’d always suspected that the ideal position for the hands would
leave them as relaxed as possible, so I raised the near edge of my
keyboard by improvising a stand for it. That helped (alleviated wrist
extension), but only splitting the keyboard can address ulnar
deviation, which I didn’t bother with.

great link. thank you. gives me pause for thought.