China Culture Shock

Users of this forum might be interested to know what visiting China is
like. Other than the surprising, futuristic skyscrapers that stand out,
China is still a dirty, backwards, poor third world country where most
everything Western countries have like cleanliness, quality, ethics,
freedom, comfort, wealth, safety, justice,
prayer, creativity, education, fashion, diversity, good healthcare, space,
or politeness is not easily available. Most first time China visitors think they have
stepped into the future when they arrive until some retard wearing a dirty suit and slippers squatting next to a
tricycle shouts “Hello!” and giggles. Visitors are
quickly jerked back to reality that they are not in Kansas anymore when
they realize that they have instead fallen into a time warp back to 1900.
Foreigners can live here for years and never adjust. If you are
traveling to China, here are some observations and weird facts to be
aware of to lessen the cultural shock:

  1. China is dirty. People eat from the same dish using the chopsticks
    they are eating with. Littering and spitting is common. The air quality
    is very poor due to non-existent or unenforced pollution laws. Kids
    often don’t have diapers and parents whistle to encourage them to pee on
    the street or on the floor of stores. People here often don’t wear or
    use dental floss, mouthwash, deodorant, perfume, cologne, makeup, nail
    polish, eye shadow, mascara, lipstick, hairspray, earrings, jewelry,
    rings, bracelets, or necklaces. Some people have lice or go six months
    without taking a bath in the winter because they have no hot water. Most
    women don’t shave their underarms and some use cloth instead of tampons. Many men don’t shave and grow long pinky
    fingernails to clean their ears. Toilet paper is used for napkins and toilets don’t have toilet
    paper or soap. Toilets are often squat toilets. Vomiting in public is
    commonplace. People cover their noses instead of cleaning up the
    environment.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=62379

  1. Just about everything in life is or was once banned here within the
    last 50 years including education, books, democracy, capitalism,
    personal property, free speech, protests, religion, superstitions, free
    movement, pets, puppets, movies, long hair, baseball, rock music,
    psychologists, Disney, art, premarital sex, flunkyism, splittism,
    flowers, sending newspapers abroad, UFO associations, gambling, world record attempts, smoking, cooking at home,
    cosmetics, prostitution, footbinding, opium, guns, story-telling, opera, theatre, concerts, acupuncture, Confucisism,
    feng shui, dresses, rickshaws, golf, jewelry, martial arts, politeness, and mahjong. In just 10 short years, 5000 years
    of Chinese history, relics, temples, paintings, buildings, palaces, books, and art were destroyed. Now China is only
    left with poor rebuilt copies of the past and basic, ugly tile buildings. Life in China was grey, drab, and dreary.
    Today, Hong Kong and Taiwan are more Chinese in some ways than mainland China.

  2. Some things that were good in China are bad now and what was once bad is now good. Warning of a possible
    overpopulation problem, for example, lead to prison for one person and warning of SARS lead to prison for
    another man. Both were found to be correct and policies were reversed.

  3. Mental health treatment is not encouraged or popular here. There are
    very few psychiatrists or Western drugs available for the mentally ill.
    This may be one reason China leads the world in suicides. Alcoholics
    Anonymous is also nearly unknown here.

  4. China has a strict one child policy where women are forced to have
    abortions and be sterilized if the have more than one child. Since there
    is very public welfare and sons traditionally care for the parents,
    daughters are aborted or abandoned in favor of sons. China is predicted
    to have 60 million more men than women by 2014. Sadly, sex education and birth control pills are very uncommon here.

  1. Chinese people eat almost every kind of food including snakes, worms,
    eels, dogs, cats, squid, and all parts of animals like chicken feet,
    duck lungs, pig brains, and fish heads. Even human meat has been
    consumed here. Ironically, however, most Chinese dislike cheese.
    Restaurants often have live birds or fish outside for customers to
    choose from. Seeing wildlife like birds, squirrels, and pigeons is rare
    because everything gets eaten in China. Chinese generally don’t like nonsteamed bread unless it is
    sweetened bread or has weird toppings like dried pork. Most Chinese people hate uncooked food like sushi or
    salads and don’t know how to eat with a fork and knife. Meat is cut into small pieces before cooking and the bones
    are usually included in the dish. Diners spit the bones onto the table
    while eating.
  1. Rudeness in China is well-known. Cutting in line, staring, not
    holding doors, not saying “thank you”, “sorry”, or “excuse me”, or
    shouting “Hello!” or “Laowai!” to foreigners is common.

  2. Many Chinese guys look like gay nerds because they are super thin,
    short, out of shape, don’t comb their hair, carry purses, and put their arms around other guys. There are few
    joggers or weightlifters in China. Ping Pong is one of the most popular sports here.

  3. The huge population of China and poor business practices means stores are overstaffed to keep the population
    employed. Most stores have an employee stationed on every aisle to watch customers shop.

  4. Corruption is common due to a lack of ethics in China. Chinese
    people are generally much more individualistic than countries like Japan.

  5. Ironically in a country founded for the workers, labor protests are
    banned.

  6. Some Chinese people are so brainwashed that they are grateful to the government for restoring their rights to
    start a business.

  7. Owning a car is rare here. Only 1 out of 100 Chinese people own a
    car compared to 75 out of 100 Americans who own a car.

  8. Houses in China may not be very comfortable, but they are secure and easy to maintain. Many windows are
    covered with burglar bars. Windows are often opened in the winter or don’t have screens or glass. Many businesses
    have no doors even in the winter. Buildings are often
    unheated in the winter. Many buildings and neigborhoods are surrounded
    by concrete fences and have security guards.
    Homes in China that have carpet are practically unknown. Buildings
    are fire-proof, wind-resistant, and don’t need painting because they are concrete and covered in tile. Few homes
    have yards to be cut. Homes do not have closets or basements.

  9. The annual per capita income of China is US$5600 compared to US$40,000 for the USA.

  10. Only 5% of Chinese have a college degree compared to 25% of
    Americans.

  1. 500 million Chinese have never brushed their teeth.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/printout/0,13675,501040809-674820,00.html

  1. Counterfeiting is rampant in China due to low creativity. How many
    Japanese, German, or American brands are there? How many Chinese brands can you think of? Items like sawdust are too often
    used in goods like fake milk powder or fertilizer. Even cars are copied.

  2. Elevators are rare in China since buildings less that nine stories
    tall are not required to have them.

  3. Chinese made products in China have very low quality. Expect
    products like umbrellas, nail clippers, belts, shoes, coats, shirts,
    pens, lighters, furniture, watches, surge protectors, washing machines,
    speakers, clocks, batteries, pants, necklaces to not fit or to to fall
    apart in less than six months. Stores do not have return policies.

  4. Physical fights are more common here.

  5. Furniture is very uncomfortable. Beds, stools, and sofas are often
    little more than wooden planks with no pillows.

  6. Buses are often overcrowded here. Most buses have ticket takers and barf bags.

  7. Male smokers are very common. Smoking is considered healthy. Smoking is even allowed in hospitals.

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  1. Public welfare is very scanty. Private domestic and international
    charities are very rare in China. Many crippled beggars and old people
    beg on the street, as a result. Seeing handicapped people in wheelchairs
    or scooters is uncommon.

  2. Chinese people seem to be able to sleep everywhere and anytime
    including during the day at work.

  3. Small store owners in China often bring their children to work with
    them.

  4. Free speech is not encouraged in China. Many websites are censored.

  5. Prostitution is illegal, but commonplace. Streetwalkers operate
    openly in many places. Hairdresser and massage businesses are often open 24 hours and are actually brothels. Pornography
    is also banned.

  6. Around 30 million people in China were killed or starved to death
    during the Cultural Revolution.

  7. Traffic is dangerous in China. More people die in China on the roads
    than anywhere else in the world even though there are a lot less cars
    here than in the USA. Running red lights and driving on the wrong side
    of the road or the sidewalk is commonplace. Pedestrians do not have the right of way.

  8. Many Chinese live in company dorms and have no hobbies. Crowds of
    people watching TV outside of some stores at night is a common sight.

  9. China leads the world in executions.

  10. Torture is sometimes used to obtain confessions.

  11. Many people have mobile phones. Mobile phones are pay as you go.

  12. Many Chinese like to squat instead of sitting to rest. Chinese hate
    sitting on the floor and often use newspapers if sitting outside.

  13. There are few lawyers and lawsuits in China.

  14. Common products like the following are very difficult to find in
    China:

Deodorant
Dental floss
Underwear
Large clothes
T-shirts
Your Shampoo
Socks
Syrup
Razors
Shaving cream
Mustard
Pancake mix
Croutons
Pickles
Big shoes
BBQ sauce
Tacos
Taco sauce
Coffee?
Cobbler/pies
Turkey
Stuffing
Fruit cocktail
Canned tuna
Whip cream
Gelatin
Aspirin
Cranberries
Cranberry juice/sauce
French bread
Frozen strawberries
Index cards
Cherries
Litter boxes
Salsa
Pop tarts
Parsley/oregano/paprika/dry mustard/cumin/basil/thyme/dill weed/celery
salt/rosemary/peppercorns/cinnamon/garlic salt/tarragon/onion powder/cilantro
seasonings
Worcestershire sauce
Frozen pizza
Hamburger buns
Waffles
Toasters
Fish batter
Tartar sauce
Corn dogs
English books
Large bras/condoms/sweatshirts
Tampons
Perfume
Power converter
Bibles
Cereal
Pasta
Gyros
NyQuil
Pepto Bismol
Diet Coke
Chapstick
Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups
Breath mints
Nachos
Chex Mix
Pretzels
Marshmallows
Graham crackers
Tortillas
Shrimp cocktail sauce
English muffins
Fortune cookies
Eggrolls
Snapple
Cotton balls
Calamine lotion
Construction paper
Felt
Duct tape
Powdered sugar
Baking powder
Pudding
Chocolate syrup
Conditioner
Large towels
Cake mixes
Easter egg dye
Caramel
Kool Aid
Gatorade
Lemonade
Bacon bits
Pot pies
Lasagna
Potato salad
Ice cream cones
Ranch/French/Italian dressing
Food coloring
Canned pineapple/prune juice
Blueberries/raspberries
Pumpkins
Hot dog buns
Cake decorations
Chilli
Casseroles
Clam chowder
Cotton candy
Baking pans
Ovens
Melba toast
Romaine lettuce
Garlic bread
Rye bread
Pie shells
Shortening
Bagels
Muffins
Cupcakes
Donuts
Au gratin potatoes
Meatloaf
Brisket
Bumper stickers
Smoke detectors
Insulation
Fluoride
Birth control pills
Cinnamon rolls
Danishes
Campbell’s chicken noodle soup
Macaroni and cheese
Mashed potatoes
Hash browns
Potato pancakes
Baked potatoes
Pita bread
Canned fruits/vegetables
Pulp-free orange juice
Mountain Dew
Dorito’s
Cheeto’s
Frito’s
Funyun’s
Cigars
Angel food/Carrot cake
Blueberries
Peanut butter/Chocolate chip cookies
Cheesecake
Cowboy boots

Lettuce, butter, cereal, raisins, fresh milk, and cheese are very
difficult to find here. Many of the above items may be available in Asia,
but the brand may be not be very good or the price will be very high.

Maybe some of these items are seasonal or can be bought in large cities
like HK, but it’s still amazing how such common and simple products are
so difficult (impossible?) to find here. Many Chinese just don’t realize
how deprived they are. People looking for dried fish, cooking oil,
noodles, rice, soy sauce, or 50 kinds of tea, will find China to be heaven. Other
people may find Zhongguo to be a bit boring after a while. Eating rice,
noodles, and dumplings everyday gets old quick. Overseas Chinese are
lucky that they can go to the local Chinatown if they get a little
homesick when they are abroad. Too bad foreigners can’t have the best of China and the best of their home
countries, too. At least saving money
is easy since most things are cheap and there’s not many good things to
buy.

Although foreigners in China probably won’t miss these items if they are
just coming here for a little two week holiday, those who plan to stay
longer should consider having someone send them care packages or packing an extra large suitcase.

The few imported goods already in China are just a drop in a bucket.
Pepsi, Coke, KFC, Pizza Hut, and McDonald’s are fine, but it would be
nice to have Thai, Vietnamese, Middle Eastern, German, Greek, and Indian food, Italian Garden, Wendy’s, Bonanza,
Long John Silver’s, and Taco Time, too. China has been cut off from the rest of the world for years
and they don’t know what they’ve been missing.

  1. Fashion sense is a often muddled here. People often wear dark socks
    with shorts or white socks with suits or two-piece suits to do
    construction work or pajamas to go shopping. Many people only have one
    or two sets of clothes to wear everyday. Men usually wear dress pants
    and rarely wear jeans. Men often roll up their pant legs and shirts if
    it is hot outside.

  2. English is rarely spoken or spoken poorly here, but many Chinese
    will try to speak English even if foreigners speak Mandarin. There are
    also almost no English books or magazines here.

  3. There are few foreigners in China.

  4. Hot water and heaters are hard to find.

  5. Electricity, water, and Internet services may often have outages.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2004-09-01-china-energy_x.htm

  1. Ice and tap water are usually unsafe. Ice is rarely used.

  2. Western medicine is very difficult to find and medicine is often
    fake here. Antibiotics are over-used here. IV drips are popular for
    treatments. Prescriptions are not required in China.

  3. China seems advanced in some ways and behind in others. For example, China still uses oxen to plow, yet has
    DVD players and telephone cards.
    China has bullet trains, but the stewardesses and nurses wear uniforms
    from the 1960’s. John Denver, The Carpenters, Micheal Bolton, Celine
    Dion, and Whitney Houston are very popular here.

  4. Visitors should also be aware that China has many pickpockets.
    Shenzhen, Guangzhou, and many other cities have gangs that wait on busy
    corners and target unaware people with bags. Be careful!

  5. China is very noisy due to population density.

  6. Many grown men ride tricycles in China. Bulky goods like queen-sized
    beds, refrigerators, and televisions are often transported on bicycles.
    Very few people have a driver’s license and U-haul and Ryder don’t
    exist here. Occasionally it’s possible to see five or six people on one
    motorcycle.

  7. Carjackings, illegal drugs, food handling inspections, and
    background checks are NOT common in China.

  8. There is no drinking age enforced in China.

  9. Hotels usually don’t have keys. Guests must ask workers to let them
    into their rooms.

  10. Odd crimes such as kidnapping groups of women to be sold as wives or
    crippling children to be used for begging happen here regularly.

  11. Many Chinese cannot swim. Women wear conservative swimming suits from the 1950’s and men prefer to wear speedos.

  12. Playing badminton outside in parking lots with no nets is popular
    here.

  13. Most delivery trucks are blue for some reason.

  14. Chinese people do not have many good places to invest their money
    since land ownership is prohibited, many banks pay very low interest
    rates and are unstable due to bad loans based on government connections
    instead of risk and reward calculations, and investing in the stock
    market is risky due to poor accounting practices.

  15. Some doors are too short for many foreigners.

  16. China is very poor. Some people don’t have enough to eat and rarely
    eat meat or fruit,
    never had toys, cameras, lawnmowers, or bikes. Many homes have a dirt
    floor and no running water or
    electricity. Many people had to share a single public bathroom.

  17. Chinese people needed permission to travel and obtaining passports
    was once difficult. Chinese people often go sightseeing in groups with
    their companies or schools. Foreigners could not visit China easily and
    still need to stay in foreigner approved hotels due to government
    mandated discrimination.

  18. Until very recently, Chinese people needed permission from their
    employer to get married.

  19. The government once assigned work to everyone and Chinese people
    were not allowed to choose their jobs.

  20. Chinese people prefer hot drinks to cold drinks and drink much more
    tea than coffee. Drinking anything other than alcohol or tea at meals is
    not very common.

  21. Chinese people are generally very reserved and do not hug and kiss
    family members or strangers much.

  22. Tipping is not expected in China.

  23. There are almost no big box chain stores like Target, OfficeMax,
    BestBuy, PetsMart, ToysRUs, Pep Boys, or HomeDepot in China. Parking
    lots in China are small and always have a parking lot attendant. Drive-thru windows or drive-ins are almost unknown.

  24. Construction workers live in the building they are building or on-site
    in temporary dorms. Construction sites are surrounding by temporary
    brick walls instead of wooden or chain link fences. Scaffolds are made
    of bamboo and covered with green netting. Construction workers sometimes wear flip-flops instead of steel-toed
    safety boots and don’t often wear hard hats. Items being welded or soldered on the street are not covered.
    Construction is done 24 hours/7 days a week here. Highways and skyscrapers can be built in six months.

  25. Chinese people are very patriotic.

  26. China is mostly a cash-based society. Checks are not used very often
    and the personal lending industry is very undeveloped.

  27. Auto parts stores, laundromats, fire trucks, sirens, funeral homes,
    car rental agencies, vacuum cleaners, greeting cards, car stereos, ovens,
    limousines, and pawn shops are also very rare here.

  28. Gasoline prices are cheap here because the price is fixed by the
    government.

  29. Soap operas set in ancient China are constantly on TV.

  30. Workers in most restaurants don’t wear hats. Cooks sometimes smoke while cooking.

  31. Barbers in China do not seem to soak their combs and scissors in
    disinfectant.

  32. Bathrooms do not have baths or shower curtains. Water from showers falls on the floor.

  33. Many businesses, including banks, are open everyday.

  34. Wiring or taking a lot money out of China is difficult. Converting
    RMB to other currencies is also usually difficult.

  35. China’s currency is set by the government and not the free market.

  36. People go to the hospital for even minor illnesses like colds.
    Appointments are not needed to see a doctor or dentist.

  37. Many banks require customers to take a number instead of waiting in
    line.

  38. Most people in cities live in apartment buildings, not houses.

  39. Babysitters are not popular in China because grandparents usually
    take care of children.

  40. Women use umbrellas on sunny days and skin whitening lotion because they hate dark skin and don’t want to
    look like farmers.

  41. Bras are small and usually padded here.

  42. Most city streets have street sweepers.

  43. Holidays like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and St.
    Patrick’s Day are not celebrated here.

  44. Wedding rings are not popular here and wives do not change their
    names.

  45. Phone books are not free here and not many people use them.

  46. Not many people get a lot of mail here.

  47. There are few movie theatres.

  48. Outdoor meat markets don’t have refrigeration. China has very few
    buffets and they don’t have sneeze guards.

  49. Political correctness, religious sensitivity, and knowledge is not
    common in China. Racist ignorance also exists. Sexual harassment is also
    accepted. Discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, age,
    handicap, or national origin is legal in China.

  50. Cheap plastic chairs are used in many restaurants.

  51. Since China has many mountains and limited space, many mountains are
    moved to the sea.

  52. Eating sugarcane and bamboo is popular here.

  53. Statistics are not very reliable.

  54. Girls like to wear frilly clothes.

  55. Many street corners do not have stop signs.

  56. Chinese people are usually punctual.

  57. Chinese people just push other people’s shopping carts out of the
    way instead of saying “excuse me” and look into foreigner’s carts and
    baskets.

  58. There are less sales/income/property tax hassles here.

  59. Payphones use only cards instead of coins.

  60. The news reporting is more upbeat here.

  61. The divorce rate is lower in China than the USA.

  62. There is less personal debt in China compared to the US.

  63. Public transportation is cheap, widespread, and frequent.

  64. There are no classic cars, mobile homes, or RV’s in China.

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  1. Many similar stores are located in the same area in some cities.
    Groups of hardware stores may be next to other hardware stores, shoe
    stores may be next to other shoe stores, and computer stores may be next to other computer stores.

  2. Chinese-owned Western restaurants mostly offer unrecognizable
    Western food. Pizza may be topped with lettuce, salads may have potato
    slices, and tuna salad may use radishes.

  3. Private doctors are rare. Doctors have low education. Patients will
    not be treated without money.

  4. Chinese chocolate tastes like wax.

  5. There are no newspaper vending machines here.

  6. Memorizing is used more than creative thought in schools.
    Philosophy or psychology courses are rarely offered in schools.

  7. Clothes sizes are not standardized.

  8. Some cities ban the sale of motorcycles.

  9. Sleeper buses with beds are used on some long-distance routes.

  10. Makeup in movies is poorly done.

  11. Restaurants usually only give out one menu per table.

  12. Frozen food is not commonly sold.

  13. Buildings are often demolished with sledgehammers.

  14. Bus/airline/train tickets are the same price even if not purchased
    in advance.

  15. Few homes have pictures on the wall or books.

  16. 66% of Chinese live on farms while only 2% of Americans live on farms.

  17. Grocery stores have small shopping carts.

  18. School students wear school uniforms.

  19. The Chinese government owns most of the major companies in China including
    airlines, electric companies, telephone companies, and oil companies.

  20. China doesn’t have proms, homecoming queens, or marching bands.

The best things about China are the weather in Hainan, the thin girls,
booming economy, and the cheap prices, but as a result of Communist
policies, the USA leads China in almost everything despite having only a
fraction of China’s population. China trails the US in railroads, roads,
hotels, income, GDP, life expectancy, cars, religious freedom, human
rights, free speech, Ph.D’s, airplanes, democracy, mental health
treatment, science, dentists, charities, health care, credit bureaus,
insurance, credit cards, mutual funds, ski resorts, and comedy clubs. No
wonder why so many Chinese want to emigrate to the USA. If you live in
a free, developed country, thank your lucky stars.

Having lived there for a year I’d say the majority of that stuff is true.

But is that a problem?

Your comment about being transported to 1900 is dead on. 1900 is when America still had some frontier left, when there was unbridled growth and a rawness to much of life. That is China now. The new frontier, the new land of opportunity. If you like your society calcified and finely-processed then it might not be your cup of cha.

“you suck, you are not exactly like me, so I am good”.

BLAH.

Whoever edited this article is probably an inmature dude being out of the country for the first time. Most of these are true, but I don’t like the tonality. It sounds like everything mentioned in the article is wrong and everything he/she didn’t expect shouldn’t happen.

Chinese don’t know how to use fork and knife? Haha, why bother when we can do it with just 2 sticks?

“China is dirty. People eat from the same dish using the chopsticks
they are eating with.”
It’s been like that for 5000 years. It’s the way we eat and interact on the table. We don’t have such individualistic culture like American, especially when it comes to a family dinner. It’s a way of sharing and trust.

Put it this way. If you are are unwilling to adjust to such changes, then you should never have stepped out of your home town in the first place.

It’s not better or worse, it’s simply different.

Maybe someone should start a similar thread for US of A.

Actually his post reminded me of Singaporeans.

  1. Political correctness, religious sensitivity, and knowledge is not
    common in China. Racist ignorance also exists.

wow… they have a real monopoly on that. Probably very homophobic too…


This line is my favorite:

  1. China doesn’t have proms, homecoming queens, or marching bands.

What no proms? shocking! sure sign of a backward third world country – they haven’t eradicated their culture to be replaced by tedious American traditions.

curious vgfd…

Why are you visiting China?

vgfd- wow you sound like a spoilt little American. lmao- you dont want to try the great variety of food whining that “Chinese generally don’t like nonsteamed bread unless it is
sweetened bread or has weird toppings like dried pork” and you complain that you dont get …“pancake mix”!!!

You complain that people say hello??

jeez- go home fool

vgfd - what is your problem? you never heard of culture??

instead of calling some poor guy that says hello to you a retard why don’t you start considering yourself 100% ignorant!

i started reading all the shit you wrote and got up to point 3 and just could NOT go on reading the total crap you just wasted time writing!!!

i’ve been to china many times and believe me all you have to do to understand their culture is TALK TO THEM…but obviously you didn’t take the time out to do that because you were too busy taking notes of the negative things you were seeing!!

you obviously haven’t been to a real third world country and you obviously have never lived a poor life…i’m sorry but i honestly hope that just for one day in your life you experience some of the shit that they have to go through every single day of their life!!!

people like you make me sick

…fear breeds contempt in some…having worked with a few chinese over the years, i have found them a joy to be around…different, to be sure.

why so overwhelmingly negative?

Some of what you wrote though, the parts that were’t outright xenophobic, were kind of interesting, if true

Honesetly, It would have been great if half of thoose posts talked about the good experiences of China, for instance 2$ foot massages you can get everyday and feel like a million bucks in 1 week… or some of the tasty dishes you can make with all the interesting ingredients

I got a chance to go to a wedding reception of one of the guys I worked with there, and it was different - thats for sure. The people were just like people here when it comes down to it. It was strange when the groom when to karioke with us that night without his wife, but who am I to judge!

(not me in the pic)

i went to a wedding in china too and i had a great time even though i got very very drunk…KAMBE!!! (spelling? :unamused: )

hhahah

Gam-Bei!!!

hey you dumbass redhead, why don’t you join your uncle bush’s army and die in iraq like the rest of your pigbrained peers? am sure life in iraq is a lot better since everyone there is happily getting blown to bits and coming back in little boxes with a small flag free-of-charge.

You are certainly dead on about how China does not have to same standards for cleanliness - but you are in a different culture (and on the other side of the planet) than the US pal. The Chinese are progressing rapidly. You forgot to mention that mobile phones were developed before a country wide landline base- they skipped that whole step!

I understand that this is pobably your first visit to China. When you visit any other culture you need to keep an open mind- especially if you are used to US standards of living.

During the small amount of time I have spent over there, I found what you said to mostly be true, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. I have had some GREAT experiences there. The Chinese I have met are generally happy (proud of their culture/country) and that is what matters. Open your mind a bit.

Hey vgfd— quick question— where exactly do you live?

And I realize that there is a point to this point, but it got lost in the 100 things about China. What is the reason for this post?

molested cow: he forgot to say kiasu :slight_smile:)

and I am so tempted to write the same about the US of A

as in,

  1. why the food plate in restoran so full?

  2. Why so much food thrown away without giving others?

  3. Why no filial piety, no respect for elders, and understanding family and community?

  4. Why cannot get kuay teow and nasi lemak in USA?

  5. why does everyone here want to tell me to have a nice day with a fake smile?

  6. why different rules for different color people in USA?

  7. why cannot get anything decent to read or watch on tv other than sitcoms?

  8. why no culture?

no culture? you mean no ancient culture? china does have a long uninterrupted recording of its history, while america is only 300 or so yeas old as a country. But, america is currently home to a ton of vibrant and diverse cultures .

Im living/designing in china- it rocks. Ive been here 4 months and I still buzz out. Little things like the difficulty in finding deodorant and milky milk make you a more resourcful/experimental comrad.
The chinese design industry is a nuts affair- improving at a rate which will guarantee its place on the world stage soon.
Come to china- pay 20c for a nice big beer and and eat from the same plate as your flatmate.

One word - Contrast.

And I wouldn’t have it any other way. Okay, so it is nice to know that there is toilet paper in the can after eating something that doesn’t agree with your stomach but still…keep an open mind. Isn’t that what a big part of design is supposed to be all about!

Come out here and get a taste, you are not going to want to go back. :smiley: