Cheap shoes by "Starbury" & Steve and Barry's

Have people heard about this project? Does anyone know more about it? Heres the website:

I think its a novel idea, but where are they made? And how long could they possibly last? Anyone have any thoughts…

This sounds like a great idea.
It doesn’t cost that much to produce a single pair of shoes, I’ve heard $5-7 dollars for all sneaker compmanies. That being said I think the price will not completely hinder how these shoes perform, but they will not be as good as the advertising is saying. I’ll probably pick up a pair tomorow, so I’ll report back on how they feel.

Its funny that I saw this post today because this weekend, I was at my parent’s house visiting and my 18yr old brother was wearing a bunch of Starbury clothing!

He went on telling me about how he got his hoodie for $10 and I have to say, it was incredibly nice in overall quality! Whilst I myself am no longer wearing as much of the “Street” style, my brother is a basketball player and can’t get over how much he can get for so little at these stores.

I think it is a great idea on Stephon Marbury’s part and I respect what they are doing. I hope they can keep it up!

That is not even close to correct AK. There is a basic formula. If footlocker sells a shoe for $100 than the sneaker company sells it for $50 to footlocker (%50 of the sale approx. is the wholesale price), so if the Sneaker company sells it for $50 to the store, they buy it from the factory for about $25 (or %25 of the retail price)… it is called 50/25/25

So the store gets %50, to cover their employees, rent, what not, the sneaker company gets 25% for design, development, shipping costs, and marketing, and the factory gets 25% for manufacturing, and materials.

That is not even close to correct AK. There is a basic formula. If footlocker sells a shoe for $100 than the sneaker company sells it for $50 to footlocker (%50 of the sale approx. is the wholesale price), so if the Sneaker company sells it for $50 to the store, they buy it from the factory for about $25 (or %25 of the retail price)… it is called 50/25/25

So the store gets %50, to cover their employees, rent, what not, the sneaker company gets 25% for design, development, shipping costs, and marketing, and the factory gets 25% for manufacturing, and materials.

Wow, schooled :confused: .

My only thoughts is that it might be a little different from the norm since this seems to be a direct collaboration between Steve and Barry’s and Starbury (maybe some of the costs would be down?). But thanks for the schooling Yo, I’m always looking to expand my knowledge of the shoe game.

But in this case isn’t that all thrown out the window because I believe Steve and Barry’s would be the manufacturer, designer, and store front for these items. Do they still attempt to get 50% of the cost if this is the case? Can the simple/fairly unoriginal designs my allow the costs of production to be between $4.50-$7? Did you see the Nike Dunk and NB one offs?

And how does “Starbury” get his cut?

i hear the shoe has done pretty well, at least in nyc…it is good to see him put his dollars/name behind something like this, maybe it well help redeem his image/rep

just curious yo, is there a min max to this standard? like with shoes like the ultraflight-ultraposide-foamposite series that are fairly expensive to make (right?) or shoes that are inexpensive? is ther a ceiling to what retailers will pay? least a sneaker comapany will sell?

Im not that big of a fan of their basketball shoes, but the AF1-ish Starbury Crossovers are pretty nice… and at 9.98 I will be getting the cocoa ones if I ever find them in stock here in Cali. Think about it jeans and shoes for $20 bucks, you cant beat that. Now im not sure about the overall quality, but just to have as another outfit in the closet. the price is more than just right.

Steve and Barry’s is not the manufacturer (I also doubt they did the design and development) but in this case they are probably the wholesaler as well as retailer of course. I’m only guessing here, but I assume they contracted the design and development, then contracted the manufacturing allowing them to sell it at a wholesale price. This would make the shoe equal to about a $30 shoe on the market. They might have also lowered their margin (amount of profit) so this allows them to make a bit better shoe, maybe equal to about a $40 or $50 shoe at footlocker

… but then add on Marbury’s royalty fees. I’m not sure what they are but it cuts into the amount of money for materials and labor. I believe that Marbury didn’t take any money up front, no annual sponsorship, but that might mean a sizable royalty per shoe.

I’m curious how it will turn out. I admire what they are doing. It is similar to Shaq’s concept, but with more of a collection of product.

Here is a short interview with Barry Prevor of Steve and Barry’s:

This gives us a little more insight into where they are coming from. Though, it sounds like a little bit of BS(“theres a lot of technology in here”), he sounds sincere to “the vision”. I am wondering if other players may sign onto this type of project because the Starbury One seems to be doing very well.

Yo, your guesses are probably better than mine, but they do have an internal design team. They are not very well known for their footwear, so you are probably right.

^ Agreed, “This is actually the highest performance shoe you could make for any amount of money” :laughing: There’s no way there as good as they say.

I tried Steve and Barry’s for a pair but they were all sold out, any of you guys have any luck?

one person’s opinion:

New news from Starbury - Big Ben joins the movement.

MOUNT PROSPECT, Ill. (AP) _ Stephon Marbury started it. Now, Ben Wallace is joining the cause.

Wallace is lending his name to the Starbury Movement, endorsing an affordable line of sneakers and apparel started by the New York Knicks’ star. Wallace will begin wearing the Starbury II basketball shoe Thursday when the Chicago Bulls play his former team, the Detroit Pistons. And his own sneaker _ Big Ben _ is expected to hit the market in late August or the fall.

“Kids don’t really understand what it takes to go out and buy a pair of $300 pair of shoes,” Wallace said at a news conference on Tuesday. “We don’t understand the pressure we put on our parents when we’re growing up. This is one of the things where I think the parents will appreciate it a lot more than the kids right now because it eliminates so much stress from the parents. All parents want to see their kids have nice things.”

Launched a year ago, the Starbury line is expanding from 50 products to 200 _ nearly all available for $14.98 or less at Steve & Barry’s University Sportswear. It includes a joggers shoe, skater shoe, casual shoe, gym shoe, woven shirts, jackets, jeans, T-shirts, shorts, hats and other accessories.

At a time when youngsters feel pressure to wear expensive brands of shoes and clothing and are even being killed for what’s on their feet, Marbury and Wallace are trying to provide an alternative.

“Once parents and their kids begin to see that other pro athletes are getting down with this, then it just makes a world of difference,” Marbury said in a phone interview. “It’s not just one person doing it. Other people are wearing the shoes. Other people are putting their feet inside of shoes that they’re saying are cheap.”

Marbury and Wallace are not paid to endorse the products. Instead, they earn royalties on sales.

Marbury and representatives from Steve & Barry’s started developing the line after discussing it over dinner about a year-and-a-half ago, while Wallace joined in about four months ago.

Marbury said adding the four-time defensive player of the year “gives the brand some credibility,” and he plans to get more players involved. He hopes that, in turn, will help spread the word to children and their parents _ that there are good, cheaper alternatives. Alternatives he wishes were available when he was younger.

Growing up on Coney Island in Brooklyn, Marbury couldn’t afford the top brands. So he wore “everything. No specific shoe.”

For Wallace, it was a steady flow of hand-me-downs.

The 10th of 11 children and the youngest of eight boys, he grew up poor in White Hall, Ala. He knows he had shoes, but which brands? He couldn’t say.

“I had to wait in line,” said Wallace, who was wearing a White Sox cap, jeans, a striped short sleeve shirt and a pair of white Starbury low-top sneakers. “It’s tough at times because you see everybody else getting new shoes. You want to be a part of that crowd. Sometimes, you’re just not able.”

But with the Starbury line and the Big Ben sneaker coming out, there are more opportunities.

Although the shoes are inexpensive, Marbury and Wallace said they’re as durable as the more expensive brands.

“If you were to cut this in half, there’s absolutely no difference between this and the most expensive sneakers on the market,” Steve & Barry’s spokesman Howard Schacter said, holding a red, white and blue Starbury II. “This provides arch support, a reinforced heal. It really is the same deal, and what Ben and Steph are wearing on court is exactly the same shoe.”

Marbury said: “It’s not that they’re cheap; they’re just affordable. Now, as we begin to sign more players, kids won’t feel that burden.”

Wallace acknowledged he had doubts, but they went away once he tried a few pairs.

“They last just as long as any other pair,” he said. “I hope people do realize that regardless of how much you do pay for a pair of sneakers, eventually they are going to wear (out) somewhere.”

The Starbury 2s - Out April 2
Pretty decent design at a reasonable price tag

these for around $50 AUD

Steve and Barry’s would have to be their own agent really… But I’m not sure exactly how this is really working. The only other play I can see happening is that a few of the factory owners realized that they could open a brand/ business operation here in the US. In vice versa, it’s not so easy for an American company to OWN overseas- thus the reason most brands don’t own their own factory (although there are general exemtions).

Hey Yo- those pictures look a heck of a lot like the D-wade’s: With the Double lasting, the low cut midfoot. I was just handling a pair of them today actually. The outsole around the lateral instep is much thinner and doesn’t have the platform kickout… but it looks pretty similar.

I do think that there is some good thought here, and great intentions… but FOB on those shoes- especially with the double lasting, would be at least that much. Not that the athletes really NEED the endorsment money- but it would hard to believe that there’s nothing involved.

It just makes me curious really… IF Marbury really cold get these shoes produced legitimately at that price, then they have something even the big boys can’t even match.

Kidding right?

Not seeing it…

I was thinking more the 1.3’s. But maybe in retrospection- not so much. The low profile of the outsole line around the heel and the line near the toe. Plus the side profile of the eyestay, the vamp, the logo at the base of the throat, and the lacing from webbing to eyelet… my bad. Mostly I was seeing the form more than the upper.

got ya… I can’t stop them from biting off a shoe that is almost 1.5 years old :wink: