SCUOLA POLITECNICA di DESIGN in Milan ripped me off!!!

Hey friend

Pls look into the prospectus and u’ll c that the masters course in ID is taught in English. Did u not follow this thread where ppl have said that they teachin English. Moreover they called me up twice, the first time to check my English proficiency.

I think you probably asked the wrong guy.
ok gud luck

Hariesh.

Hello, i’m from SPD staff. i just wanted to add some details to the story.
I can tell for sure who mr pissed off is and i regret to say, his situation is rather weird.
He contacted us on end of June 2003 and for a couple of months he exchanged email messages and phone calls almost twice a week.
The school checked his profile, degree and experience and that’s why he was rejected for the Master’s program and accepted into the Basic Design Course (product design foundations). contract was signed on August 20th, 2003. the Italian language assessment course - compulsory - started at the end of September, he confirmed that he had taken beginner courses in Italian one year before and at the moment he was speeding up with “intensive lessons”. The only day he came at SPD he was tested in order to check his level in Italian language so i really don’t know what he can judge…
As for the refund, our policy is that every year there is a deadline in order to withdrawal from the Master’s/Courses and getting a full refund. When norman enrolled, he was 100% aware the deadline had expired.

And let me also say that in italy like in every part of the world it’s not the school that issue the visa for study purposes; it’s the consulate and you need to be previously enrolled in a school/university.

Personally i don’t like personal attacks, threats (or even praises) to be used to portrait a general situation but that’s it and when it occurs, you’d better be informed, don’t you?
the courses here have just ended. This years our Master’s teachers were Denis Santachiara, Piero Lissoni, Aldo Cibic and Patricia Viel (Studio Citterio) among tha others. Ferruccio Laviani, Aldo Cibic, are SPD’s alumni. Some of this year’s students have already started collaborating with design firms like Matteo Thun, Studio Citterio, AlfaRomeo. We’re currently collaborating with the politecnico di milano for a master’s program in interior design; we’re honorary member of ADI (Industrial Design Association) and that the school - founded in 1954 - has won the Compasso d’Oro ADI award.

You may not appreciate italian design or may feel that the italian education system doesn’t fit you but these are names and facts which can say something in the world of projects and design education.

AND YES, norman is right, during the Christmas holidays we moved to a new building (just 2 km and a few tube stops away from the old norman’s insurance building). We’re now in a new district for art and design with Abitare magazine, contemporary art galleries and design studios. though norman and his avatars wants to raises problems from nothing, our 200 master’s student seemed to have rather appreciated the quality of the space

I’m absolutely available for any enquiry or comment about the way schools and students figure out design and design education. but please, norman, just stop sending me personal threads and insult at my mail.

rita

norman?

rita whoever you are,

Your deadline had passed when you accepted people. Therefore, you should not accept people. You kept pressuring them to pay and tell them it is OK because you know it is after the deadline and if they pay and will not get their visas the students will never get their money back. Very smart of you people. That’s why you have a deadline not to accept students anymore. As far as I am concerned, you threatened me with lawsuits because I quit the school- which was a piece of crap-and you offered me a spot for the next year so that I will not do anything to get my money back. I will continue to let future students know about your policies so that they will not attend your school SPD. The other schools in Italy are great such as IED or Domus- not your school. I only applied to the Basic program which was a prelude to the master. You don’t even know about your program. How great. All I want is my money back and since I did not have enough time to get my visa, therfore can not attend your school, I should get my money back.

Who is Rita?

Norman Hawley? the only north american Norman in Core’s folio???

This school SPD needs international students to survive and they will do anything to prop up their credentials and to get your money. I got scammed, and so will you. Beware future international students.

The school checked his profile, degree and experience and that’s why he was rejected for the Master’s program and accepted into the Basic Design Course (product design foundations).

SPD stock just went up.

Mr. Pissed Off just got:

Wow this is amazing. I am not an industrial design person but I would like to study fashion in Italy. I looked at Spd’s web and sounds like a lot of money. From what I read, I have to back PissedOff guy Norman. Spd accepted him after their deadline and they new. Why would Spd accept students after that date? Because if he paid, he will never get his money again. No matter what happens.


They Could have said to enroll the following year so Norman will have the time to get visa. And since he did not get visa, he should get the money back.


Way to go Pissed Off for challenging this school. I back you 100 percent.

I am the original Pissed Off guy and I also responded a couple of times to the staff at SPD whatever her name is Rita. Some people have been using my username to abuse the sytem. Anyways, if I can influence at least a single person not to attend IED, I have reached my goal. But then again, I hope the first posting that I wrote will influence many people. The people of SPD are decieiving and do not tell the truth. I fell into their game and I lost money. I was dumb. However I learned my lesson. But I hope future students will learn from my mistakes. There are better schools in Milan other than SPD that are genuine and honest and more reputable.

That is correct. The system is meant to smear and spread libel against universities, firms, and other designers.

Additionally, all other pissed off people need to cease and desist immediately in their utilizing “Pissed Off.”

“Pissed Off” is a registered trademark of the person formerly known as Norman and now known as “Pissed Off.”


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BTW: Rita, you single? I just love a woman who knows how to screw people over.

Hi

SOmetime back ppl said SPD is bad whereas IED & Domus are good.Now you seem to be giving another opinion.Now wat do u have to tell bout IED.Is it worth going there.

ur views and xperiences could be of help to me.

Hariesh

BTW, Rita is an old hairy woman- your kinda girl. She would love to screw you!!!

To Hariesh, I meant not to attend SPD - instead of IED!

Go to IED

just a little extra clarification about the spd story
the deadline for enrolement in the basic course was not over yet
it was over the deadline for withdrawal getting full refund.
and this was clearly stated in the contract
sorry, as an adult (32) working in a bank he was supposed to be perfectly aware of contracts
about postponing enrolement to the next year due to serious visa problems (he’d better have told the Student Information Service earlier), this was offered but it was not norman’s option, probably fed up with insurance looking buildings. sorry for being so technical.

i just regret this seems a personal fight against the school and so, let me say “old girl”? not if you think that a 32 years old pissed off person is “young”.
and hairy? please

32? Working in a bank? Norman Hawley meet the people of Core. Core, this is how to screw yourself in the design world.

sorry, norman is not hawley but n. collado
i didn’t mean to refer to any core (or not) people

He said he registered on Core but there is no Norman Collado registered here. I just did a Yahoo search but only one hit and it is a book review on fashion design. Is Norman is a fashion queen? This would explain alot.