Exactly. Also the term ‘industrial designer’ relates more to the back end of the production process - while a product designer works more multidisciplinary and research-oriented in order to establish new concepts and new interactions with products, services and systems. The title product designer nowadays is even used for digital media developers in some companies. In the Netherlands ‘product designer’ is related to a lower education level than ‘industrial designer’ and more related to engineering, though in professional life ‘product designer’ is a more encompassing term.