Should IF be Shamed to award a pirating work?

OMGā€¦this just keeps getting better!

Iā€™d be more worried about that James Anthony ripping off James Kings name.

Have you seen those bicycles with hubless wheels? swwwwweeeeeeettttt!!!

Many. And they issued with real numbers. However the vast majority of work the work that I do is done without patents, because I know I can innovate faster than the majority of my competition and I dislike the patent system and the litigation required to defend it.

I conclude from you ignoring my question, that you did not ever build a prototype. Although I have also done countless renders, I have also designed product that reached the real world. Some of that work was copied by other companies, including exact 1:1 replication. It is the sincerest form of flattery.

+1.

For everyone wanting the old days of the Core boards back: enjoy!

James: I know how you feel too. I pitched ideas numerous times, never got it passed stage one and then saw it on the market 3-5 years later. Unfortunately, thatā€™s life.

Do you have a patent? Post your patent #. Is it in China only? If it is, Europeans and Americans are within their rights to copy your design without punishment. Even more so, because itā€™s been in the public domain for (at least) five years.

Lastly, did you have an experienced translator go over your entry to IF? I work in a second language. Itā€™s difficult! For really important things, like my C.V., I always have a couple of native speakers go over it before I send it. Maybe that was your problem here. I have to say, after re-reading your posts and your blog links, I still donā€™t understand exactly what you are complaining about.

P.S. Settle down. No one came here to attack you.

LOL, ā€œdft;sā€ (donā€™t feed the trollā€™s)ā€¦good times, good times.

(raises virtual hand) ummm I am available to supply a bit of assault, a little out of practice but the OP here is playing in my metaphorical sand box. :slight_smile:

In America, we have an expression, please observe the following illustration and pay extra attention to the fact that the horse never comes back to life.
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Ohā€¦I know this oneā€¦donā€™t tell meā€¦

Youā€™re punching a sleeping llama!

Greenman wrote:
You are correct, both of them suck ergonomically

I am curious why a ā€œsuck ergonomicallyā€ work was awarded IF ? You mean IF has a bad sense in judgement? I am willing to see how your works are not ergonomics suck! Or maybe your works are all suck so that you think all other kinds of works suck!

NURB -
Youā€™re still pushing this virtual keyboard thing even after 5 years?

why not since someone is liking to copy it and push it on the market even after 5 years! Further more, this is not a virtual keyboard!

nxakt

Many. And they issued with real numbers.

You applied by yourself or agency? it is useless for you to understand patent if you apply through agency.You can know nothing but some basic knowledge from them. I can not believe you are professional on patent but mentioned a obviously amateurish issue. You know why? Every inventor hope to widlely protect his/her invention so that he/she must try to avoid some finite words, such as numbers, materials and colors if it is not necessary. The reason is that, like the keyboard, the patent can be easily pirated if you define one camera when others use two or three cameras. If I define the transparent material with glass, you may use transparent plastic or other kind of transparent materials.Therefore the patent is meanless. So, it is impossible for a professional to focus on one or two cameras. On the other hand , how do u know that there is only one camera in my design? Only through the picture ? It is only a design, not the real solution. In fact, two cameras located at one point towards two dirrections is a possible solution when it is produced.

Are you confident with your experience and judgement?

About prototype, I think it a useless issue though you always ask. Not all the patents need prototype. I never built one for my patents.

Mr-914
ā€œJames: I know how you feel too. I pitched ideas numerous times, never got it passed stage one and then saw it on the market 3-5 years later. Unfortunately, thatā€™s life.ā€

I feel nothing in fact and it is common. Donā€™t worry. the post is not about stage. Please read the post carefully. You may understand it when you read it thousands of times if it is hard to understand.

About patent, I already said clearly: it is still a copy even if others are not patented.right? Can you declare that it is your design if you copy a Beatles car and just because the design has been in public? Donā€™t you think it strange?.

P.S. I never said someone is attacking me. And it is normal if someone does.After all it is not acceptable for someone to admit pirating. I can understand you.

Sorry for my frankly speaking, there is no relationship between the patent you posted and my design at all therefore I ask you to learn some patent knowledge, which may hurt you and someones else. They are obviously different technologies even if you know some simple technology( this also sharp wordsā€¦)

I open a group in http://www.yisheren.net to simply explain some patents issues. Here is the thread:
http://www.yisheren.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=48&extra=page%3D1
You can easily find the authorā€™s works, blogs and videos, not only his/her barren words. It is more interesting here.

I may open a patent class for someones who can not exactly distinguish different ones in the future. Would you like to join ? ? You need pay much in your country to learn that. Of course you need not if you think you have enough patent knowledge. up to you.
cheers!

Please re-read this thread thousands of times if it is hard to understand.

Yes. My experience and judgement is outstanding. But no, I am not a patent attorney. Are you? There is a saying in this country. A man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

But thank you for repeating my point about independent claims. It seems you also think my experience and judgement is outstanding. And you are correct, the broader the independent claim, the more protection you receive from the patent. But that is patent law 101 and completely obvious.

Have you approached the people who run the contest about the alleged copying? Again, why would you come to an anonymous interawebz board to aire your grievances? Festivus was a couple of weeks ago so you are a bit late with that regard.

Yes , this must be the right reason that you think you outstanding.

So why did you always act as a patent professional? why did you disscuss some issues that you are not familar?
I am not attorney,too. But I am sure I am more professional than you and some others here! It is not based on my judgement but on your words and the patents you post.

This also proves strongly how ā€œoutstandingā€ your judgement is! So astonishing outstanding! Did you search any resoult of the 180 degree vision camera? Do you need my help to search it ? Do you still think it different invention because of the number of cameras ?

I would like to claim it on BBC, could you help me with the money? why do you always ask some meaningless questions since you are so ā€œoutstandingā€? I do not think it difficult to understand it for outstanding peoples.

Your level of arrogance is very high. That you can maintain that arrogance, even to brag about not even building a test model for you idea, and attempt to lecture me on intellectual property, remarkable. I have tired of this conversation.

Iā€™m out.

You are wrong again.

You are wrong again. It is you who are highly arrogant! You can not explain why another keyboard are innovative enough. And always ask me some meaningless questions. Again, is there any relationship between the prototype and pirating works? In our country , prototype is not necessary for patent. Your product has no innovation though you can build a prototype, is it difficult to understand? Do you know what is innovation ?
I also tired of this discussion with someones like you. It is meaninglessā€¦But I am still glad to view some your funny posts! say, 180 degree cameraā€¦ hahaā€¦

OMG! this thread is just awesome, please someone tag me in so i can get a little of this!

James, can you provide a link to your website? I would love the opportunity to see your work and have better insight into your abilities.

Iā€™m also curious how you define yourself, as you stated you are probably more professional then other here. on what criteria do you make this statement?

This thread would be a great case study for the Sociological, Psychological and cultural perception and use of electronic based interaction.

What is a patent if you arenā€™t going to create a real product from it? Or even try to prove that it is a technology worth purchasing if you donā€™t make a prototype?

Iā€™ll help you out with the answer- Meaningless.

Also, what is a design award if you donā€™t intend to do anything with the design? Or if you hadnā€™t made any advances in the project for over 5 years?

Again, this might be tough for you to understand, so I will help you out. The answer is: Meaningless.

Now, letā€™s innovate right here and nowā€¦ Hmmmā€¦ how about this! I just invented a device that creates food and water out of thin air! No Batteries required! It also has a transparent keyboard to type what meal you want to appear in front of you!!! OMG I NEED A DESIGN AWARD! I DESERVE A DESIGN AWARD! I might even patent thisā€¦ :wink:

But it would all be what? MEANINGLESS unless I could prove that it worked in real life, and not just in my imagination.

Please continue to troll the boards. This is amusing. :smiley:

Iā€™m just gonna go ahead and assume you are a massive troll with no life, but in the spirit of entertainment I present you the following retort.

You are curious. Why did IF award the other design? Iā€™m not sure, why donā€™t you contact the judges and I dunno, ask them? Weā€™ve provided you with our professional (not student) opinions and advice, FOR FREE.

You got me Dr.Phil, itā€™s true, I do it all just to wrack up my post count on Core77 by telling everyone here that their work is trash, I actually have a degree in debate, I donā€™t know anything about design. Are you in the bridge market by chance?

Iā€™ll tell you a story about Jack McGory and now my storyā€™s begun, Iā€™ll tell you another about his brother, and now my story is done.

I thought I was until I read your posts, now I realize I have a lot of work to do in the confidence department.

Agreed, why waste time prototyping a weak concept when you can just persuade stupid investors, chah!

No, no itā€™s not, unless you are a robot, you arenā€™t a robot are you? If so then your concept is awesome and I have no idea about the whereabouts of Sarah Connor, and no you may not have my clothes, boots, or motorcycle.

This is where I disagree, this has become quite a bit of theater.

Nope, can you try to explain it differently? I donā€™t think weā€™re getting it.

For the record, I am unaware of the Beatles ever having a carā€¦a yellow submarine maybe. But would that be public? I suppose if it was sighted in international waters, but then, it would be under waterā€¦good question.

So it is normal to be attacked? No, no itā€™s not, thatā€™s the point, you came on here acting like a whiny arrogant douchebag, it has nothing to do with your concepts, your design talent, or your patent knowledge, you need to work on how you interact with others and solicit professional opinions or you will never find and hold a job nor will any of your ideas, deigns or inventions go to market if you treat investors as ā€œstupidā€. Iā€™m glad you came here seeking professional help, but we are NOT the type of professionals that can actually help you.

Then why did you bother asking us?

Nobody cares anymore. Read that 1000 times.

Yes, but only if you agree to join my Advanced Western Online Forum Etiquette Class.

Ahhhh! Pleaze stop I cant take it anymore, people keeping coming to see why Im in tears laughing!