I can share my point of view. I don’t think designers don’t want to have a critical discussion about design. The problem is, what is design? In your opinion, the business and engineering components of the development cycle aren’t design, but to me they are. Design is about making deliberate choices to solve product problems using whatever tools make sense to use, sometimes visually, sometimes not. It bleeds into a lot of things and a lot of things bleed into it. That’s what I like about it. I’m sure many others have their own interpretations of what it is or isn’t design, too. If IDSA is openly embracing the whole of the development cycle that is awesome.
So yo, what groups do you find useful?