NURB wrote:Also agree that Jin's character could have developed more. She's certainly no Rey, who IMO is one of the best Star Wars universe characters of all time.
I actually hold the exact opposite opinion. I would need to watch Rogue One again to ensure my analysis is correct, but I thought that Jyn was one of the greatest SW characters of all time, and much better than Rey. This is probably because I have a good amount of familiarity with the Extended Universe and I could see a lot of the inspiration for several characters and plot points. Jyn's personality and character is based on that of Kyle Katarn (who stole one part of the Death Star plans in the EU, and my favorite SW character of all time) from the Star Wars: Dark Forces series of games and thus my brain kind of filled in the character development areas that were glossed over in the movie. Like Kyle, she has a cynical outlook and disdains politics, but that is because of a perceived betrayal by Saw Gerrera, (both Jyn and Saw were rebels in the past) which made her distrust even the alliance. Deep down inside she supports the rebellion (not necessarily the alliance) because of the Empire's oppression, taking of her father, and killing her mother. People talk about how it seems she made a complete 180 very quickly, but it wasn't a 180 as much as a rekindling of her past convictions, which was a result of seeing her father again in his message (and his death) and witnessing the destruction of Jedha that confirmed the danger of the Death Star. This explains how she was willing to even lead the Rogue One team at Scarif and die for the cause (all of this part was inspired by the Battle of Toprawa and Red Hand Squadron from the EU.) So while the movie probably did this part too quickly, she didn't necessarily lack character development, we just needed more time for it.
Rey of the other hand felt to me like a wannabe that got sucked into the conflict she always wanted to help out with despite not putting in much effort on her own to make a difference other than reacting to the situation she was dropped into. Rey was way too over powered for being a newbie of a force user. Her most interesting facet to me was her willingness to forsake her involvement with Han or the Resistance to wait for her family again of Jakku, but that part wasn't very developed either. Rey wasn't the only character to suffer in TFA though since I've seen much better imperial defector stories than that of Finn (Like Brenn Tantor from Star Wars: Force Commander.) This combined with J.J. Abrams shallow style, and the TFA story seeming like a lazy mashup of ANH, SW: Threads of Destiny (fan made movie,) the typical defector story, and Jacen Solo from the EU.
Overall my rankings would be:
Revenge of the Sith
Call me a heretic for putting a prequel above Empire, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But I think R1 was the best combination of my favorite story and characters, the good old trilogy art style, not overdoing the nostalgia like TFA, and that amazing ending.