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Now I`m not looking for someone to give me a salary average or anything like that , I`m just curious to know if you're living a comforting life, able to afford things for your home and especially if you have kids, can you support them financially?
As cool as an industrial designer is, I`d like to know different people`s financial status from being one.


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You might look at the coroflot salary survey, look at the area you live in etc. .
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The coroflot salary survey gives you a better idea and breakdown by region, as well as title and employment area (corporate/freelance/consultant).

http://www.coroflot.com/designsalarygui ... ted-states

The answer is going to depend on who you talk to, but the survey gives you a pretty good idea of what you can expect based on where you plan on working, along with a decent ball park for starting salaries. As you can see from the curve, you have everything from students fresh out of school who are making $20k a year scraping by on freelance jobs, to design directors who are making well over 6 figures. Where you want to slot into is going to be a function of your skills as a designer and where you choose to work.

I personally don't have anything to complain about.

Re: How are you doing financially as a designer

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Somewhat OT... and morbid, I'd like to see the life expectancy of an industrial designer.

It seems like you're also asking about the quality of life of an ID'er, which is a little different than paying the bills. Will you have time to see that family you're providing for? What is your measure of success? How stressful is the environment that you work in? What is it worth to you to do something you love?

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Those are all still pretty subjective questions.

Industrial design isn't a bad career. Will you go home every day at 5:00? Probably not. Will you risk missing your daughters dance recital because you have to fly to China to approve a tooling change? Maybe.

I can tell you from IDSA conferences and other design events, overall designers are pretty happy, optimistic, alcoholics who deeply enjoy what they do.

If we didn't love what we did, we wouldn't spend all this extra time talking about it on the interweb. ;-)


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Financially i think i having difficulties about it and i can say i have an exact amount of salary for my self.

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I'm good.

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I was good... until my ball-busting shrew of an ex-wife drilled deep into my salary and relieved me of the bulk of my take-home pay and left me deep in legal debt. Oh wait, what was the question?

So kids, here are the lessons - don't do drugs, stay in school, and never get married. And yes, it's OK to become an industrial designer.
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Re: How are you doing financially as a designer

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I remember I was interviewing someone a few years ago with a co worker of mine. We asked the interviewee if she had any questions of us, and she asked "In your opinion, what is the most important skill an Industrial Designer needs to have?". My coworker replied with the most brilliant and apt answer, he said "Savvy". If you are savvy, as in all every profession, you will do fine. The design of your career will be your biggest and longest running project.


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a couple things,
the salary survey isn't randomized, so take it for what it is.

And for someone with such a deep understanding, being "savvy" is pretty off the cuff advice.
YO, it'd only take a few minutes to create a top skills list that re-orders itself over time. In-school design is all about presentation skills. mid-level might be all about managing expectations. and senior-level could be organizational development...I'm not really an expert but all these factor in at each level and shift in importance as a career advances.

I think we've all made enough flowcharts of the design process, to be able to create a career skills roadmap...didn't Rita Sue have one a long time ago?

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This doesn't have to do with design but its good career advice nonetheless. Design is a scalable career so there are people in positions at all points on the spectrum. Hard work and commitment to your personal values count for a lot:

http://tumblr.austinkleon.com/post/29222364664


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I will offer only what a very successful friend of mine told me - no one gets rich by working hard, people get rich by being smart. He did work hard, 22 hours a day like myself some days but he always stands by that fact - it was working smart that made him as rich as he is (he isn't an ID'er but I'm sure this can be applied here...)

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Great. Thanks. The ultimate measure is always "if you are doing well, you don't need to think about how you are doing".

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Interesting thread in regards to the quality of life. The culture of ID is something I've been ruminating on a lot lately.

As an ID-ish student who has degrees and many years experience in other fields, I really feel like ID has a harsh and psychologically rough culture.

One issue is the long hours. I understand that turnaround time is important in this industry, but it's important in many industries and I don't see them fixating on it as much. Even software dev, which I used to think was terribly demanding.

Another is the psychological games. In an industry where you have to watch ideas you've nurtured get killed off on a daily basis, you'd think we'd be aware of the negative psychological ramifications, and try to mitigate them. But it seems like tradiation not to...

I had lunch with a designer who works at a very big consumer appliance company, and one of the things that came up in conversation was that every friday, he was worried about whether or not he would have a job on monday. This wasn't an intern. It was a guy who had been there many years, through several divisions, worked his way up, and was even named on some of the patents used in the products.

It's the same in my academic program. I had a talk with one of my profs about it. He basically said that negative feedback _ONLY_ is just the way he does it.



Whats the deal with this? is it tradition? Do companies and design schools look for authority figures who will continue this cycle? I don't get it. I think it's one of the biggest problems facing design. Currently, a lot of design education is having an identity crisis in the face of DIY, crowdfunding, crowdsourcing, and other technologically aided stuff. It's steadily slipping into the process flows that were traditionally "professionals" only. A harsh attitude is going to turn armchair designers away to do it on their own. That's bad. We need to be advocating good design, not keeping it to ourselves.

sorry.. a little bit tangential.

Re: How are you doing financially as a designer

Postby yo » March 22nd, 2013, 12:29 am

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Seems like your sample size here is 2 people?

What we do is awesome! Yes there can be some late hours, yes someone might call your design silly, superfluous, weird, or ugly and you may have to defend it in an articulate and convincing manner. Yes it can be a hard job.... And yes it is incredibly fulfilling, exciting, and ultimately rewarding if you play the cards right. It isn't predictable, it isn't accounting.

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