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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby yo » July 6th, 2010, 3:39 pm

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bennybtl wrote:
yo wrote:what is the membership fee for IxDA?


On the join page, it says you only have to fill out the form.... so free? :shock:


that was my point ;-)

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby Ross McCoy » July 6th, 2010, 3:43 pm

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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby rkuchinsky » July 6th, 2010, 4:01 pm

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Now that's a membership model I can get behind! Also I'm sure greatly encourages satisfaction as you won't complain if you don't donate, and if you do, you help strengthen the popular events, etc. as opposed to paying for all and not liking what you get (IDSA).

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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby Mr-914 » July 7th, 2010, 7:00 am

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There is now a Mr-914, IxDA. Pretty cool.

Having said that, it looks like IxDA does a lot less than IDSA outside of Cal. At least that's my impression after crawling the website for a while.

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby hitch » July 7th, 2010, 4:56 pm

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Not sure if anyone's checked it out in the midst of all the uproar, but a group of us here at Ziba have been helping out IDSA recently to get this up and running:

http://idsadiy2010.org/

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It's the microsite for the upcoming IDSA conference, and I'd be curious to hear what people think. Still a work in progress, built on a Wordpress platform with a fairly narrow range of content, but it's aiming to address some of the concerns that have come up so far about information overload, navigability, visual consistency, etc.

I'd love to get feedback and opinions from the target audience (i.e. most of Core's readership), as we're going to be adding a lot more content between now and the conference in August, and are hoping to make it useful to the ID community in general, even if they're not coming to Portland.

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby yo » July 7th, 2010, 6:29 pm

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Carl, lets just say I wish this was the IDSA website! It's contemporary, fun, and easy to use. Lets me get to the good stuff quickly. I like how this is handled: with the roll overs and such:
http://idsadiy2010.org/speakers/

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby hitch » July 7th, 2010, 10:11 pm

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Much appreciated! It's been a far flung collaboration and a labor of love, but the topic keeps it interesting.

Other feedback?

We're just starting to load up the Blog portion, so suggestions on content are much appreciated -- basically, anything that helps get the DIY vs. traditional design conversation going. I know Mike's got some very well- considered thoughts on this, but if anyone is interested in contributing, or has come across some interesting perspectives on the topic, please don't be shy. This only happens once a year.
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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby rkuchinsky » July 7th, 2010, 10:25 pm

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I browsed the ISADIY2010 site quickly and also have to agree that it's great. Excellent, even. Fun, easy to use, graphically relevant. A pleasure to use. I don't think I'll get a chance for further review, but it seems like you have it above par on the whole so I don't see the need to get into details and nitpick. Great work.

Can you maybe hack the IDSA site to make it as good ;) ? (even half as good would be an improvement).

I'm watching from afar (up here in Canada) but the quality of the site alone makes me wish I could attend. I'd say that is a ringing endorsement!

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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby CoyoteDuster » September 21st, 2010, 5:26 pm


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Want to add my comments based on looking at the site today. It still needs quite a bit of polishing. The typography is terrible. Right and left justified sans-serif type is painful to read, and unneccesary in most places. Many spelling and grammatical mistakes. And someone should regularly update it so events that happened 3 months ago are not called "upcoming". Keep working on it!

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby warrenginn » September 21st, 2010, 10:48 pm

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My suggestion to you and any other member is that these comments should be directed directly to IDSA. Sad to say, despite any shortcomings that the website has, we've received very little specific comments/suggestions/criticism from the membership. I encourage each of you to first, use the the website and then submit specific issues you'd like addressed. You can Clive Roux at cliver@idsa.org.

The more participation we have, the better the website will be.

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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby rkuchinsky » September 21st, 2010, 10:52 pm

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Wouldn't hurt if idsa perhaps checked out this thread... Wasn't that the whole idea with this forum. I would think core represents a large percentage if members and potential members...

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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby warrenginn » September 21st, 2010, 11:08 pm

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rkuchinsky wrote:Wouldn't hurt if idsa perhaps checked out this thread... Wasn't that the whole idea with this forum. I would think core represents a large percentage if members and potential members...

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That's true, and it wouldn't hurt to ask our members to directly engage IDSA with those comments. We do monitor this board but the staff is asking for direct feedback. So why not contact them as well?

Anonymous posts don't carry the same weight IMHO.
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Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby yo » September 25th, 2010, 4:15 pm

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I see a new tag line "IDSA, always asking for something"

I just couldn't help myself.

If they can't trust the authenticity of comments on here, I think there is a deeper issue. Many of the posters here are not anonymous.... especially with a click or two. I'd say that anything on here would actually carry more weight. Keep the discussion public guys! Join the new transparent reality.

How specific do you want? I'm ready... to post on here...

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby tarngerine » September 25th, 2010, 6:21 pm

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Agreed. I'm sure we've been very specific on this thread. The navigation, hierarchy, organization, type, use of words, have all been addressed. I know people hate email, and I believe that reading this thread is way more convenient.... Just send a link to this thread.

Honestly, it's at the point where there are SO many "specific criticism/suggestions" that it'd basically be another redesign of the site (which I don't think is a bad idea). I know a recent grad was nice enough to do it, but he's a recent grad... who came in with 0 experience with Drupal. How does IDSA get away with assigning such a vital part of itself to an intern? I don't mean to offend the designer. He's a recent grad and it's completely understandable about his lack of experience. But come on, IDSA... we pay all that money each year and I'm sure you have plenty of connections in the web UX design area.

Also, this way of getting community feedback is pretty backwards. Asking for feedback after the website is completely built and "finished" is asking for trouble... changing basic elements that just dont work (like the navigation and org of content) is HELL, and is basically a redesign. IDSA should've been asking for our feedback since the beginning of our project? Where's the user-centered design? Contextual inquiries?

Anyway, it's probably not gonna change for a while.

Re: IDSA's new web site

Postby PackageID » September 25th, 2010, 10:19 pm

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Okay I am going to have to play both sides of the coin here.

I am going to start on the positive side of IDSA. As some of you have seen in other posts I been putting my work out there to see where it might get me. IDSA has been a big contributor when it comes to contacting others. I have used contacts through IDSA to help me get into contact with certain companies that have been part of my career goals scenes day one. This has been huge for me. It has provided great opportunities me.

On the other side of the coin, I still think IDSA is stuck in the past. Face it gentlemen, times are changing. Your website is behind the times (even though it was just "redesigned"), the profession is changing and it seems that you don't want to accept it. You NEED to bring us back together!!! If you want to be what you say you are you NEED to start showing value. I am a member because Mars pays for it. If I was a student (which I hear now has to pay $50 which is big money for a student and it used to be free) or an unemployed designer, I don't know that I would pay the $375 to join. My question for someone in that situation is what are they getting for their money? A website that is hard to navigate? Sections that as I know from experience are not really defined (Warren I know you are working this out)? Conferences that I need to pay more money to go to? Honestly guys I am struggling with the value. Other than the fact that it creates a community that when looking for a job you can say "I too am a member of IDSA" I don't get it, and if that is your thing than please play that up. Make it worth the money!! Make the conferences about networking!! There are a ton of designers out of jobs right now and there is a hug opportunity for you to help others. That shows value.

As far as the website goes....I agree, it is awful!! I have been trying to set up a Pkg section and wanted to do a happy hour at the HBA show. I tried to find the name and contact info of the NYC chapter leader (which is a bigger problem that I did not know who that was) and I found is name, but there was no contact info to be found. What is the use of showing me his name if I cannot get in touch with him?
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