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Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby c_cassar » March 25th, 2018, 6:15 am

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Hi everyone.

I'm embarking on a project where i'm modelling some jewelry pieces and the surface will need to have a stippled effect. Normally for presentation purposes I would just use some sort of texture mapping but in this case I need to physically model a stippled texture onto the surface because this will be 3D printed in wax so that investment casting can be used to to make a silver part.

Would anyone be able to share any experiences or tips. Perhaps point me in the direction of some info about creating a physical textured effect on a NURBS model.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby Cyberdemon » March 25th, 2018, 12:15 pm

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You'd be asking for an exercise in pain for that type of of detail work in pure NURBS, you'd be better off laying down your base geometry in Rhino then importing that into a sculpting tool like Zbrush which is perfect for exporting a mesh to 3D print.

http://pixologic.com/zbrush/industry/jewelry/

Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby louis leblanc » March 26th, 2018, 8:43 am

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As Mike had mentionned, this is probably easier with a mesh centric tool like Zbrush.

However, you might be able to do it fairly easily in Rhino. If your displacement map has exactly what you want, you can run extractRenerMesh to get the mesh representing what you're seeing on the screen. Luckily, 3D printers work fine with meshes so you don't need your result in NURBS.

http://tips.rhino3d.com/2013/05/displac ... ino-5.html

Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby engelhjs » March 26th, 2018, 11:11 am


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Two strategies come to mind. This first I've used pretty often with good, if finicky, results. The second I've never attempted.

1. Flow Along Surface
http://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/5/help/en- ... ongsrf.htm
This will require you to model each individual texture element, lay them out on a surface that approximates a flattened version of the surface on your model you want to be textured, and wrap the elements around your model. It takes a lot of trial and error but can eventually produce some solid results.

2. Surface From Heightfield Image
http://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/5/help/en- ... tfield.htm
Basically extracting super complex surfaces out of a bump map. No idea how well it actually works.
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Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby Cyberdemon » March 26th, 2018, 12:48 pm

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The challenge with trying to expand a displacement surface gets back to what the original intent was and how you'd create that displacement surface.

For example, if you wanted to do something fairly simple like a repeated dimple pattern, you could use a very simple displacement map to get a pretty consistent appearance. But it will become more tricky if you want something organic looking, or something which flows around a compound surface etc. At that point, you'd need to use something like Zbrush to build your displacement maps anyways.

Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby ralphzoontjens » March 28th, 2018, 3:56 am

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If you can import your nurbs cleanly into Grasshopper, all you need to do is Voronoi2D it out, downscale the cells, extrude them to a mesh then smooth. Your output will be a lot of individual meshes which you can perform a MeshBooleanUnion on back in Rhino. That usually works, otherwise there are good mesh boolean tools like in Blender.
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Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby bombadil » March 29th, 2018, 4:48 pm


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Based on the super blurry thumbnail-you are in for a world of hurt if you want to model this in nurbs. Since this is intended for jewelry and a wax master your best bet for the detail you are looking for is zbrush. Especially since it looks like you want some intentionality to the texture as well.
Fastest route might be to subcontract the sculpting to a zbrush artist- instead of doing everything yourself.
Not to say that you cant be creative and brute force it in Rhino- maybe model the smaller piece "scales" and manually position them on the core surface..

Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby KenoLeon » March 29th, 2018, 5:58 pm

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Think this was previously discussed here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36644

Also, the newest version/update of rhino for mac comes with grasshopper and paneling, which I haven't had the time to test, but might be the solution.
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Re: Modeling textures in Rhino 4

Postby c_cassar » April 25th, 2018, 7:45 pm

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Thank you everyone for your comments and ideas. As always you were all a big help. I had my best luck taking the surface I have and splitting the face i needed then using unrollsuf or smash command. Laying the stipple on a flat surface then using the flowalongsuf to get it on the part i needed. Then a simple Boolean join got it all together. Part looks good, customer is happy and bank account grew. Thanks everyone.

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