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Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 7:59 am
by steppenwolf
Autodesk Sketchbook Designer 2012 was one of my favorite software due to the blend of sketching and vector line manipulation. However the company has stopped developing it and commercializing it since 2013 and the latest Sketchbook Designer versions are just..... sketching machines without vector support.
So, I wonder if you happen to know any other software that is similar to the Sketchbook Designer 2012 ? I talking about a PC desktop version... :roll:

Thanks!

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 12:31 pm
by KenoLeon
Manga studio has vector support (vector lines,brushes,erasers etc) you can also sketch in 3d (ie your points stick to a perspective grid) and my favorite : vector guides and rulers, you might want to check it out.

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 2:51 pm
by Mr-914
I want that Manga Studio just for the screen tone feature. Wow!

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 7:06 pm
by KenoLeon
Mr-914 wrote:I want that Manga Studio just for the screen tone feature. Wow!


Yeah, tones are pretty sweet !

If you do get it, get the cheaper version (Clip studio or Manga Studio pro ) they are both the same and cost around $50 ( about $20 when on sale )

1 minute sped up doodle of what I was talking about - they should pay me for how much I plug the thing :)


Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 8:42 pm
by louis leblanc
Second on Manga Studio/Clip Studio Paint. Keep in mind it's a bit of a quirky tool it takes a bit of getting used to in order to get the most out of it. As far as I know, it cannot import or export vector files. Though strangely it has some support for 3D import.

I find I needed to spend quite a bit of time to setup my brushes so they don't have a manga style. Sketchbook is really good at giving you "ID" feeling tools out of the box comparatively (realistic pens and most importantly really good markers).

One of the small but really useful feature for me is the ability in Windows to completely turn off non-pen inputs on the canvas on my Surface Pro. No more random marks from my palm, finger inputs that were meant to move the canvas that get recognized as a brush stroke...

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 28th, 2016, 4:31 am
by steppenwolf
Hi to all and really thank you for your time to suggest Clip Studio. Really looks pretty similar to SB 2012, although its UI is a bit more complex. Perhaps though CS is more powerful.
On SmithMicro's website is see 2 version, the CS EX ($209) and the CS Pain PRO ($47.99). Does the CS Pain PRO have the vector sketch ability? Like is see on this video :

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deb3wLpjQTg[/youtube]

This one should be the EX version but i wonder if similar functions can be performed in PRO as well.

Thanks a lot!

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 28th, 2016, 6:42 am
by steppenwolf
Actually I downloaded the trial PRO version and it has the Vector function.
However, although I spent a good couple of hours, I feel the interface is very complicated. Also, I could not find the very handy functions SB had like trimming the vector lines, connecting them with radius. Maybe I need to spend more time but really I got lost on all these options.
SB had this nice spartan feeling. Minimal complexity with just the right tools.

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 28th, 2016, 3:52 pm
by KenoLeon
steppenwolf wrote:I feel the interface is very complicated.


The UI was made and tested in Elbonia.

steppenwolf wrote:I could not find the very handy functions SB had like trimming the vector lines,connecting them with radius.


There is a menu for vector operations, SB might be more complete, also make sure you have a vector layer (as opposed to a raster layer )

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steppenwolf wrote:Maybe I need to spend more time but really I got lost on all these options.


I think I felt comfortable only after reading the whole manual and months of daily use, keep in mind you basically have photoshop + sb + a crappy 3d engine all with a manga/cartoon focus, so it is a lot to eat in one sitting.

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: September 29th, 2016, 8:00 am
by Cyberdemon
Is there a reason you feel the need to switch tools? If you are happy with SBD then it will still work in perpetuity even if they aren't updating it.

Jumping to a new package if you're happy with the current version will slow down your mastery of the existing tool, which may hurt you more than it helps.

Re: Alternative to Autodesk Sketchbook Designer ?

PostPosted: October 1st, 2016, 11:27 am
by steppenwolf
KenoLeon, thanks for the tips. Yes, I was in a Vector Layer (that actually took me some time to find it... :-) ). Yes, it seems to be a powerful tool but of course is destined to other type of professionals. I will keep playing with it to see how it goes.

Cyberdemon, I used to work with it in the office I was employed, now I want to start my own and purchase it but it is unavailable.