Postby zippyflounder » March 28th, 2008, 10:23 pm


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Kinl wrote:for what its worth.....

Muffcuff - you can already get them, easy snippable wires

VBSS - very expencive, open to vandalism and the ratio of bikes locked to space required is uneconomic

Maxsters - very painful if malfunctions

Compo Net - Great idea, but would need a whole backpack to store a net that strong and big, could take you a while to lock and untangle

Bike Alarm - Smashable, mufflable (is that a word?), needs someone to care to stop a theif

JGB Bike Lock - you can already get them pretty much, but they are the best locks around, a simple but effective variation

Hexbolt - Steal it, drill out the bolts and replace

Steel Wheel - Unlikely to be feasible with current materials, would not fit all types of bikes, no good for wheelies

MagniLock - I'm not sure how you'd have the strength to even part magnets so powerfull, you'd be a danger to all things electrical and possibly the earths own magnetic field

The Judge - Take it off before you steal it, fun idea I'd buy one to booby trap friends bikes

1HDC - only room for 1 thick cable of decent length in seat shaft, maybe 2 thin cables which could be easly snipped

Belt Lock - Nice idea, would be quite bulky and potentially snipable but not as much as a cable would be

Intergrated Bike Lock and Pump - Nice idea, only for race handlebars and spokeless wheels???

Kickstand - Pick it up and run or steal all the other parts

The Shock Lock - Spray with insulation foam, Snip

Brake Lock - Snip brake cables, ride away, stay away from steep hills

Theft Proof Bike (seat cable) - Neat solution, snipable

Tri Cuffs - Nice idea, not really sure how cuttin the cable and THEN the cuffs lock up helps, just dont cut it and carry the bike? ;) The wheel cuffs are a good idea though, still needs an environment lock

K10 TD System - Awesome

Fleur de le Spike - Wear medieval armour then steal, joust your way past anyone in your way

Locbike - Definitely theft proof

Socialist Bike - I'll take mine in red

To be honest if they want to steal it they will and if those same people see a fancy bike that will disable itself by cutting a wire then they would probably do that anyway and move on to a bike they can steal, best thing to do is to buy a cheap bike and standard lock.. infact thinking about it designing the cheapest bike possible with intergrated cable lock and leaving your full suspension model at home when tootling to the shops would have been a reasonably good idea...

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ahh but you forgot "Up up and away" if its out of reach....ect

Postby nerdtronic » March 29th, 2008, 12:54 am


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Fleur de le Spike - Wear medieval armour then steal, joust your way past anyone in your way


i notice that my design is the only one that requires the thief to wear medieval armour. i think that should count for something. :D

also, my most recent project involved medieval armour, so i could win either way.

Postby Kinl » March 29th, 2008, 5:59 am


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I hope my comments are not taken too seriously, seems not so far :)

Do you think we'll ever get a result?

Postby skinny » March 29th, 2008, 8:44 am


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Is K-10 the attack dog? I'd love it if it were a real dog! Surprisingly it's probably the most effective deterrent in the group, although highly unpractical.

Postby ben_greenwood » March 29th, 2008, 10:01 am


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must admit i like the simplicity of camocycle but the ink lock gets my vote.

be well cool if it had a few different colours, and used that gunk stuff that you can get as an aerosol self defence product. takes days to wash off your face apparantly.

man, it might even look this good . . .
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Postby electroniceyes » March 29th, 2008, 6:28 pm


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"BIKELOC" looks familier...... check out the paratrooper bike and run a Ulock through it

http://www.military-bike.de/

also i noticed the "integrated lock" can really really easily be lifted up over the lock point (lightpost, parking meter, sign post) it would really only work if you locked to a tree (like in the rendering)
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I have to defend myself here. Stylistically the locbike might resemble the paratrooper bike, but the mechanisms and intent of the two designs are different. I think it misses the point to suggest they're the same if you throw in a u-lock.

Anyway, to turn the tables a bit, I would say that the compo-net looks like the "bike sack", but to be fair it seems like your intent is different.

http://www.dogcartinc.com/bikesack.html

electroniceyes wrote:"BIKELOC" looks familier...... check out the paratrooper bike and run a Ulock through it

http://www.military-bike.de/

also i noticed the "integrated lock" can really really easily be lifted up over the lock point (lightpost, parking meter, sign post) it would really only work if you locked to a tree (like in the rendering)
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Postby electroniceyes » March 30th, 2008, 10:38 pm


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hahahaha thats awesome

Postby Kinl » March 31st, 2008, 4:05 am


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Well done RBaid.. lets hope you actually get the prize, I sure never got mine in the last 1HDC!

I must say its an interesting choice, infact shove one of these http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YH75P2?smi ... nkCode=asn under your seat and jobs a good one as they say :)

I want to point out that neither of my designs deserved to win, just incase you think I'm being bitter :) I'd have put my money on the strap lock or at least while we're just tweeking something that already exists, JGBSyracuse07's variation on the U lock would have been a more secure contender.

Postby DY123 » March 31st, 2008, 11:22 am


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I guess ip_wirelessly missed the design intent of his own contest.

Did anyone watch this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA

Postby zippyflounder » March 31st, 2008, 11:31 am


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DY123 wrote:I guess ip_wirelessly missed the design intent of his own contest.

Did anyone watch this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA
great little vid, pointing out that if a thief can touch your bike he can take it with out any problem. The solution is to put it where a theif cannot touch it, out of reach out of threat.

Postby RBAid » March 31st, 2008, 3:14 pm

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Thanks a lot, I'm very excited. This was my first 1HDC

Postby bennybtl » March 31st, 2008, 4:16 pm

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skinny wrote:Is K-10 the attack dog? I'd love it if it were a real dog! Surprisingly it's probably the most effective deterrent in the group, although highly unpractical.


thanks skinny, i like "highly unpractical" Yet, this scenario happens all the time outside my local starbucks...

Postby rkuchinsky » August 18th, 2008, 4:47 pm

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just caught this link via a local blog (http://torontoist.com/2008/08/theftproof_bikes_don_valley_west_by.php) that mentions the core77 theft proof design 1HDC. Nice to see core's 1HDC has reached the Great White North (though maybe more appropriately the Great Wet North, this summer).

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/480038

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There have been inventive attempts. In March, the online industrial design magazine Core77.com held a one-hour competition asking for ideas for a theft-proof bicycle. The winning design, out of 50 submissions, featured a retractable cable that emerged from the seat post and could be threaded through the wheels and attached to an anchor, securing the seat and the wheels. Another designer suggested wrapping the bike in a metal mesh bag. Others offered piercing alarms; removing various parts of the bike (including the frame), that would make it difficult for a thief to ride away; or a removable seat post that connects to the handlebars to create a U-lock.

But an ingenious idea, and one that caused a lot of merriment among the bike designers at True North Cycles in Guelph, Ont., was the inky explosion submission, where an unsuspecting thief clips a locking cable filled with ink and is splattered with permanent colour.

The Star asked Hugh Black, a graduate in mechanical engineering from Queen's University and owner of True North (which specializes in custom frames), to assess the merits of online theft-proof designs. It was lunchtime and Black and his colleague, also an engineer were choking on their samosas and curry as they looked at the sketches and computer renderings.

The magnet lock – a magnet was permanently attached to the rim of the rear wheel – brought the most derision. "Who wants to carry around a magnet?" he asked. The winning entry he called "bogus."

"You just cut the cable, right? They are so easy, you don't need special equipment.

``Most of the designs added weight to the bike, which is the last thing you'd want to do."


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