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Re: Went looking for design employment advice...

Postby Dan Lewis » September 27th, 2017, 8:48 am

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Unfortunately, I'm 40 and way past the "starting over" thing. If I can't leverage my experience at this point to make more than minimum wage (which I can't) something's fucky as they say. :shock: I'm trash, the system's broken, America's on the slide. Whatever the problem is. I'll take measurements in an R&D lab for $40k/yr. but I get shot down for that shit. CAD drafter position for $35k/ yr.? Shot down. :(

Too old. To ugly. Shit experience. I'm waaaaaaaaaaay past the point of giving a fuck at this point. The more I've done, the less employable I've become. Fact. That's all I know.


Maybe your whiney, 'I've given up' self-pitying attitude shows when you present yourself. Who would want to work with you? (it's hard enough to read your posts) It may subtly, or worse, show in cover letters, resume, portfolio, interviews. Get some unbiased evaluation and move forward with a more positive sense of purpose. Hiring someone that is such a downer is an office killer - it infects everyone.

Re: Went looking for design employment advice...

Postby Cyberdemon » September 27th, 2017, 10:20 am

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Variant wrote:
Cyberdemon wrote:Designer who doesn't like designing in design-less area complains about lack of design jobs that he doesn't actually want.

Not sure if we're the ones with confused expectations or what. If you don't want to do design the other areas of product development either lead you into program management, product management, or engineering. Being a "Guy who can help make things" consultant is only so valuable because big engineering consultancies want people with broad engineering or manufacturing specialties, not design backgrounds.

Unless you actually know what job title you want to make you happy, finding that job will continue to be impossible. I would say to pursue a management track but unless you have the design vision and interpersonal skills to lead a design team, (which coming into a new position would require a great portfolio to show how your design successes in the past) that will not be an easy job to get.


product management
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This. What's wrong with that? It's just like any musician who finds the music part of it lacking and moves into production. The fuck is wrong with that lateral move? I've seen it a ton of times.


I don't understand your response, when did I say there was something wrong with that? (Particularly coming from me who no longer does ID and who's title is Director of Product).

My point is you commented on looking for "design job advice". Product management is not a design job. Neither are operations jobs, PM roles, etc. If you decide you want a job in program management, then people can give you tactical advice, other than you complaining you can't find advice from snarky people on a board full of people giving you advice. :|

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