Thanks for the replies everyone, good to hear some reasoned and differing views on this topic.
mo-i wrote:I asked him if he didn't fear to become unemployable in a "reputable job" and he had an answer to the point for me: "You know,... I did that on purpose, I do never want to end up in a job again, that you would call "sensible or reputable", but If you even think in that category Tattoos obviously are not for you..."
I asked him again, if he did not fear to spoil future chances, like perhaps being elected into some kind of public office. " I am who I am, either people would suddenly vote for someone like me, with all the tattoes, or they vote for the next jerk in a tie and suit..."
This basically echoes my feelings. I don't really ever want to work anywhere where the senior members of staff would think that the decision to get a tattoo affects my skillset. That's not to say that I don't understand that some employers do have policies on these matters, for whatever reasons, but I would definitely feel uncomfortable working with/for an individual who decided that having a visible tattoo all of a sudden means that I can't sketch as well.
@ Architorture - I hope that mine fall into the tasteful category, but I definitely see your point. A socially questionable phrase plastered across the knuckles makes someone come across entirely differently than someone with a small pattern on one finger.
singletrack wrote:...if you don't get hired at the place you want to work because of it then don't complain. I have seen/heard this a lot. People get mad because people rejected them based on how they looked. Well if you want people to treat you the same then you will have to act the same. This sucks but such is life there are social norms if you choose not to follow them you will be rejected based on that. In no way I am condone this behavior but it is a fact of life and unavoidable.
I completely agree with the above. If I get turned down for a job because of it, it's a life lesson in how the world sometimes doesn't work in the way everyone believes it should. I think it's important that if I am to do this, I'm fully aware of the potential outcomes later in life, and accept them.
Personally I would never exclude someone based on visible tattoos. We are in a creative industry, expecting the designers not to be creative seems like a bad idea. Personally I don't have any tattoos, mainly because I am fickle and I can't imagine having to choose.... and I'm also a whip, combine those two things and no tattoos.
Also really good tattoos are expensive and I'd rather spend my cash on horsepower... I digress, so while I don't mind it to the point that I just don't care... it really seems to bother some people and I could see some employers not allowing it. My wife works for a hospital with strict no visible tattoos rule. Since they can't discriminate based on appearance, those with visible tattoos have to cover them. So one of her co-workes that has a full sleeve has to wear a full compression type arm thing to cover them while at work. Same place once allows 1 piercing in each ear, but my wife has 4 piercings in each so she has to take them out every day. I think it is totally stupid, but those are there rules. As long as you are comfortable with electing to deal with that, it's your call.
Thanks Michael, it's good to hear this from someone in a 'hiring' position of seniority. What I take away from this is that if I went for an interview at consultancy X, whose work I really admired, but the rejection came back with the main reason cited as "we don't allow visible tattoos", would I really want to work for them anyway? I appreciate a company's right to impose these rules, but I don't think our employer/employee relationship would exactly "click".
Jboogie941 wrote:Agreed with Yo, we are in a creative industry. I am the only guy in our office with visible tattoos (two half sleeves). Some days I rock a tank top and shorts, others I wear business casual, depends on my mood. In some business settings I can tell that the older conservative crowds stare a bit but I have never been bothered enough to hide them.
Interesting to hear someone happy to have everything on show and let the client make their own mind up, how does it generally go? Have you ever lost a client because of it? (That you know of?)
Having said all of the above, I would never want something like this to jeopardise winning a new client at any employer, let alone my current one. If I do get this done, I will likely be wearing a plaster (band-aid for the Americans on here) over my finger for all new client meetings just in case.
Thinking of our current clients off of the top of my head now, I expect 99% of them would be fine with it if the next time they came into the office I had a visible tattoo because of the rapport and trust I've built with them, and the fact that they know I can deliver their work. However, quite what percentage of them would have decided to use us over another consultancy if in the first meeting they saw a visible tattoo, I couldn't say. I'm not about to bite the hand that feeds me so as a precautionary measure I will likely cover it up in new client meetings.