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Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby powaz » February 6th, 2014, 11:53 pm

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Good points. Thanks.

Sorry for the rant. It's been building up for two and a half years.
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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby designbreathing » February 7th, 2014, 12:20 am

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Powaz...

Your anecdotes sound about right. A smallish family run patriarchy is just that....a patriarchy. I have several experiences that match yours. Some as a consultant, and some as a staff designer and manager of design.

It sounds like you are ready to spread your wings. Your next position at a new firm will benefit from your frustrations and the learning curve that you have been on the past few years.

The first sign of burnout (and loss of respect for your superiors) is making up cute names in order to deal with the personalities that you have to deal with on a day to day basis.

Good luck...
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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby powaz » February 7th, 2014, 12:31 am

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Haha! yeah, actually those names I didn't come up with - they were concocted by one of the engineers who is on the other side of my cube. He's been there for ten! And as far as finding work at another firm goes, this town, which I like very much, is juuuust small enough that there isn't much else going on ID wise so it's going to take some major digging. Even then it would probably be much the same. I'm beginning to think I'll have to start fishing in bigger ponds.

Thanks for your insights.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby bepster » February 7th, 2014, 2:28 am

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Any concerns about posting this on a public forum and not trying to remain anonymous?

I probably wouldn't do it.
Not just in regards to your current employer but also considering how future employers might feel about you sharing intimate facts about the company in a rather sarcastic tone. There are always multiple sides to a story.

That being said, your situation sounds frustrating. However, if you can't live with it and have other options, leave.
Your chances of changing this place fundamentally, I'd say, are rather slim.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby mo-i » February 7th, 2014, 5:39 am

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You don't own that place.
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And you never will.

Posting all these details on a public forum without preserving the anonymity of
the ones concerned is not very professional. I'd say:

1. Edit your rant down to something morey reasonable.
2. Use all your time and strength to make these new products fly.
3. Be ready for takeoff by June.
4. Check back here by then.

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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby powaz » February 7th, 2014, 11:22 am

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mo-i wrote:You don't own that place.
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And you never will.


Thanks for the reminder.

mo-i wrote:3. Be ready for takeoff by June.

mo-i


That'd be nice, we'll see.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby yo » February 7th, 2014, 11:58 am

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It is hard to change a culture if you are not in a position to do so. My recommendation, stay focused on your personal end game. Where do you want to be in 15-20 years... back track to where you are now and figure out what steps you will need to take. You have a job in design and that is a great start. Put some weekends into some portfolio building concept projects. If you were in charge of you company what would you design? If you were in you dream job what would you design? Channel the negative situation into positive action. Get that folio together, post it on coroflot, behance, et all and make the next step on your path.

The alternative is acceptance of bitterness.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby mo-i » February 7th, 2014, 12:14 pm

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Good to see you took that rant down, entirely. Shows you
are willing and able to deliberate what you do.

I know too well how the 'net invites one to rant like that.
And like most fellow designers I have been there myself.
(Part of my own decision to stay less easyly traceable.
(A debatable one.)

Try to work with the situation you are in the best you can.
I am pretty sure there are better places around for junior
execs., but what you experience is pretty typical. Corporations
are not run in vacuum, there is friction.

If you really care that much about what you do during your paid
time just think about what you'd do IF it was your place.

The term you coined for the company "XX*Rus" wasn't
bad, actually.

Could you compete with your old company? Doing the creative
work yourself, outsourcing the production towards people with
the right attitude and modern production equipment?

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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby chevisw » February 7th, 2014, 12:20 pm


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awww, i wanted to see the rant.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby Sain » February 7th, 2014, 12:31 pm

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chevisw wrote:awww, i wanted to see the rant.


Haha me too, the thread title was intriguing.
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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby Robbie_roy » February 7th, 2014, 12:57 pm

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I did get a chance to see it, but from what I remember you wanted to stay in your area and mentioned that it might not have many other design possibilities other than starting a business of your own. How attached are you to your town/area?

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby rkuchinsky » February 7th, 2014, 2:10 pm

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I read the original. From what I recall, what you are experiencing is pretty par for the course, be it in a small company, consultancy, or even a larger in house division. There are always those up the food chain that have their own ideas, are difficult to work with, have unreasonable deadlines, etc.

It's up to you to decide to move on, if it's a situation you can't change or don't want to put the effort into changing. "That being said, the grass is often greener" does apply. I've had rant sessions in the past when working at a small brand with friends working at billion dollar brands and they too had similar complaints about resources, office politics, etc.

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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby NURB » February 7th, 2014, 3:52 pm

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Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby nxakt » February 8th, 2014, 2:02 am

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I liked the original post. If it had elements that were traceable back to the original company then good to take those out, but the post was, for me a good one.

The basics were that you were put into an almost impossible crunch of expectations, new technologies, inflexible management that perhaps did not understand the parameters involved in moving from point D to point X.

I have shared those kinds of experiences, they really help me to grow. You are trying to push your own boundaries and asking at the same time if you are just whining.

I have always felt it is better to go out in a fireball and learn something than to bail out early and acknowledge that a task is impossible. Fortunately in my experience the fireball never happened, things came together and the projects happened. Of course the there is no upside, no one will recognize that you pulled a rabbit out of a hat, they will just expect that they were right all along. Which means as we all know, your days or weeks or months before your next move are numbered.

Good luck.

Re: Am I an entitled little twit?

Postby yo » February 8th, 2014, 7:56 pm

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I think the original rant could have been edited a bit to be a tad more professional (especially the nicknames) and more anonymized. It was good to have for context, but it seems like most of us read it anyway :-)

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