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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rkuchinsky » July 26th, 2017, 3:08 pm

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You can make circles and straight lines with Shape brushes apparently. Still playing with that...

Will be trying Sketchbook as well for sure! Hating the subscription thing though so might not go that route.

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby yo » July 26th, 2017, 6:22 pm

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dude, I know. I hear you. Am I an old man because I just want to buy it once? It is great for fusion 360 though where a 3d program is usually thousands of dollars. Sketchbook used to be like 100 bucks though. Blaster told me they are doing a lot of continual updates though so the subscription is good for that.

Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rkuchinsky » July 26th, 2017, 10:31 pm

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yo wrote:dude, I know. I hear you. Am I an old man because I just want to buy it once? It is great for fusion 360 though where a 3d program is usually thousands of dollars. Sketchbook used to be like 100 bucks though. Blaster told me they are doing a lot of continual updates though so the subscription is good for that.



Pretty much every other iOS app you buy once and it's continually updated. Heck, even OS X is constantly updated and Free!

Looks like there is a single purchase option and in app upgrade to pro tools. Not sure what that includes and how it's different than the subscription. Confusing.

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rkuchinsky » July 27th, 2017, 1:38 pm

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rkuchinsky wrote:Looks like there is a single purchase option and in app upgrade to pro tools. Not sure what that includes and how it's different than the subscription. Confusing.

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EDIT - took me lots of searching, but I think I figured it out. Sketchbook is free. Upgrade on mobile is an in app purchase of Pro Tools for 6.99. On Desktop, you have to buy a subscription.

I'm going to try the mobile one. Staying away from the subscription on desktop. Not sure the app difference between mobile and desktop.

They really make it difficult, don't they...

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby AndyMc » July 27th, 2017, 11:18 pm

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So the mobile upgrade is a 1 off purchase? Might also be pulling the trigger on an Ipad soon.

Something that annoyed me the last time I used the desktop version was that I couldn't adjust the canvas size without a pro subscription.

Re: iPad Pro + Pencil?

Postby Generatewhatsnext » July 29th, 2017, 7:52 pm

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I'm curious, how do you handle rendering?

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Does anyone have experience running Solidworks on the newer Wacom MobileStudio Pro models?

I prefer Windows to iOS, so the idea of the Surface is really compelling. However, the price point is really high for models with enough processing power to do real CAD work (i.e. larger assemblies & complex part design/surfacing). I've heard from a couple people who have bought Surface products that they are still kind of buggy and don't really operate as well as a standard laptop. Wacom still seems to be the gold standard for pen/display interfaces, but I am skeptical of their ability to execute a fully function computer. And the cost of their Mobile studio products is at the same level as the Surface products (which is too much if the computer part of it doesn't work well).

When will one of these players just go ahead and execute the perfect portable ID sketch/CAD/render machine?!?


I think I'll have to disagree here - my SurfaceBook (i7, loaded, max RAM, max SSD, etc) is an awesome machine that runs everything I put at it and is a great sketching machine to boot. You'll find other observations of mine regarding my workflow in different topic conversations on this site - but the summary is that I use it as a laptop for almost 90% of my workflow and it's faultless. Definitely not buggy.
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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby fatihy » August 1st, 2017, 2:21 pm


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I 'd highly suggest zen brush 2 app for ipad pro. Procreate is amazing but mostly for rendering for me. I still find it less natural compared to pen+paper sketch feel. Zen is pretty good for quick dirty sketching. Feels super natural.

I've also put a non-glossy matte screen protector on the screen. Feels a lot more like paper with added friction.

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil?

Postby moczys » August 1st, 2017, 3:42 pm

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Generatewhatsnext wrote:I think I'll have to disagree here - my SurfaceBook (i7, loaded, max RAM, max SSD, etc) is an awesome machine that runs everything I put at it and is a great sketching machine to boot. You'll find other observations of mine regarding my workflow in different topic conversations on this site - but the summary is that I use it as a laptop for almost 90% of my workflow and it's faultless. Definitely not buggy.


I have seen your posts on the SurfaceBook and am very happy to hear that it works for you. However, I do remember looking into other reviews of the Surface Book and Pro products at several times over the last couple years and finding that not everyone had the same experience as you. My comments were also based on a co-worker that had a Surface Pro 3 with maxed out specs that tried to make it work as a Solidworks CAD machine. He had some limited success, but his $1700+ machine ultimately ended up sitting in his closet unused due to a variety of complaints that made it impossible for him to do useful work on it. I think his model ran Windows 8, which was notoriously buggy, and so maybe his issues were related to that.

Either way, thanks for reminding me that there are Windows options that exist and work well. Someday I'll pull the trigger on one of these devices and have something useful to report myself!

Re: iPad Pro + Pencil?

Postby Dan Lewis » August 2nd, 2017, 10:21 am

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moczys wrote:
Generatewhatsnext wrote:I think I'll have to disagree here - my SurfaceBook (i7, loaded, max RAM, max SSD, etc) is an awesome machine that runs everything I put at it and is a great sketching machine to boot. You'll find other observations of mine regarding my workflow in different topic conversations on this site - but the summary is that I use it as a laptop for almost 90% of my workflow and it's faultless. Definitely not buggy.


I have seen your posts on the SurfaceBook and am very happy to hear that it works for you. However, I do remember looking into other reviews of the Surface Book and Pro products at several times over the last couple years and finding that not everyone had the same experience as you. My comments were also based on a co-worker that had a Surface Pro 3 with maxed out specs that tried to make it work as a Solidworks CAD machine. He had some limited success, but his $1700+ machine ultimately ended up sitting in his closet unused due to a variety of complaints that made it impossible for him to do useful work on it. I think his model ran Windows 8, which was notoriously buggy, and so maybe his issues were related to that.

Either way, thanks for reminding me that there are Windows options that exist and work well. Someday I'll pull the trigger on one of these devices and have something useful to report myself!


I'll just throw in my 2 cents. I have an i7 Surface Pro 3. I run Solidworks, Rhino, SketchBook Pro, and Adobe CC. Works great with one exception -- the pen tip is too slick to sketch well. I have tried the Pro 4 and I know the new pen has changeable, different durometer, tips to get better feel. My wife has an iPad Pro, it's a beautiful gadget but you can't get any real work done unless all you want to do is sketch and even then I don't think it's better than the Surface Pro 4. Plus it has a kickstand, can be connected to monitor, a mouse, and you can add additional storage.
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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rkuchinsky » August 2nd, 2017, 10:25 am

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Can we keep the thread on topic, please? Pretty sure there are enough other threads on Windows machines and CAD.

Here's a few sketches recently on the iPad. Loving the Procreate App so far! have yet to try the latest version of Sketchbook mobile.

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rsuzuki » August 21st, 2017, 5:34 pm

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Nice sketches! I'm considering purchasing an iPad as well and trying to decide between the two sizes. How do you like the 12.9 size? I tend to carry a smaller sketchbook around, so the 10 inch one appeals to me, but wondering if that would feel too constrained.
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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby rkuchinsky » August 21st, 2017, 6:35 pm

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rsuzuki wrote:Nice sketches! I'm considering purchasing an iPad as well and trying to decide between the two sizes. How do you like the 12.9 size? I tend to carry a smaller sketchbook around, so the 10 inch one appeals to me, but wondering if that would feel too constrained.


I like the size. Don't carry it around much, but doesn't seem to be to huge. Like the old large black hardcover sketchbooks. More space seems good for easier sketches I think.

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Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby Brian_Donlin » August 22nd, 2017, 9:01 am


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I like the bigger size (the original one). The screen is very close to the size of A4/Letter paper, which is an interesting design detail.
R, those sketches have so much energy! I used to use Procreate, but now that Sketchbook has the ellipse tool, I can't go back. I like the Sketchbook UI more too. Easier access to brushes. Fewer taps to switch between pencil/eraser/airbrush.

Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby SoOnAndSoForth » August 23rd, 2017, 8:50 am


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What is the best way to get files on or off the iPad to use downstream on my workstation PC in the office?

This has always been to me one of the biggest issues I have working on the iPad. I've never found a way that felt as organic as saving a file on a standard computer does.

Re: iPad Pro + Pencil + Procreate

Postby yo » August 23rd, 2017, 9:49 am

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I either airdrop it to my laptop or save it on iCloud

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