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Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 18th, 2017, 7:12 am
by 250gb
Brian_Donlin wrote:Those metal cylinders are starting to look pretty good! Especially the ones toward the bottom of the middle image. I always have a really hard time with chrome and glossy materials.


Yea it takes some practise i guess. The more reflective the material the more streaks that occur I think..

Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 19th, 2017, 9:36 am
by 250gb
Messed up the dial at the top but overall ok i think... Next, own design.

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Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 20th, 2017, 12:44 pm
by yo
getting there. try to get looser with he lifework. Longer, lines. I can see you starting and stoping in the line work.

Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 20th, 2017, 1:48 pm
by 250gb
yo wrote:getting there. try to get looser with he lifework. Longer, lines. I can see you starting and stoping in the line work.



Hey Michael. I'm finding making clean swift lines on the cylinders almost impossible... But i'll keep practising. Another thing if i get a line wrong then it screws up the whole sketch LOL. I guess that's what underlays are for...

I did this before reading your last post.. (own design)

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Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 20th, 2017, 5:10 pm
by yo
It takes a lot of practice. don't beat yourself up, just keep at it. Notice in my sketch it wasn't perfect, and I took a few passes at it.

Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 21st, 2017, 12:23 pm
by 250gb
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Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 21st, 2017, 1:58 pm
by Winslow_Harte
It looks like you don't quite nail down a concept before jumping to markers, which aren't as forgiving as a pen/pencil.
It's easy to keep adding to one sketch, but sometimes its good to get those first ideas down then grab a new piece of paper and overlay w/ clean lines.
I'd say throw a bunch of quick sketches down refining a concept working on proportion (orthographic views help w/ layout/proportions) then jump back into perspective/markers.. my two cents. keep it up tho and don't forget to stay loose!!!

Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 22nd, 2017, 7:43 am
by 250gb
Winslow_Harte wrote:It looks like you don't quite nail down a concept before jumping to markers, which aren't as forgiving as a pen/pencil.
It's easy to keep adding to one sketch, but sometimes its good to get those first ideas down then grab a new piece of paper and overlay w/ clean lines.
I'd say throw a bunch of quick sketches down refining a concept working on proportion (orthographic views help w/ layout/proportions) then jump back into perspective/markers.. my two cents. keep it up tho and don't forget to stay loose!!!



You might be right. I think for my next few I am just going to keep to linework and try and nail getting the lines clean.

Re: Looking to improve

PostPosted: April 22nd, 2017, 9:21 am
by ralphzoontjens
Hi there,

You are getting really good advice here, and I agree with all of the above.
Your first sketch wasn't bad at all, it needed a bit more contrast, looseness in shading strokes, a softer drop shadow and overall a more expressive feel.
What I mainly see is that you are trying to get those ellipses too perfect while as you can see in yo's sketch, even if the ellipses aren't perfectly drawn, the overall sketch gets a much better character if you let your hand flow with the lines. Work from the shoulder, it will help you get better ellipses. You can also see how fluid strokes on the outlines that continue past the perimeter of the sketch, and some overall effect and perspective help a sketch come alive.