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Postby Mr-914 » September 7th, 2016, 11:26 am

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Before having kids, I was really getting into vinyl. I got a couple of very used turntables and some of my favorite albums in vinyl. Unfortunately, imagining my kids scrape a needle over the albums inspired me to put it all in storage.

However, I've continued to check in on how the market is evolving. I think vinyl has grown at +20% per year the last 5 or so years. Pretty impressive. Hardware has come slowly and often disappointed. There have been cheap and bad turntables (~$100) and expensive and good ones (~$500+) with nothing in between. So, I was surprised when my wife said she spotted a Crosley (cheap and bad brand) with good reviews.

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Not much to look at, but modern turntables rarely are. It seems to go fro $300-400, right in that no-mans land zone. It's actually from a higher end brand, but I guess Crosley is hoping their faster inventory turnover can compensate for their lower margin.
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Postby rkuchinsky » September 7th, 2016, 12:54 pm

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I think the Crosley is a cheap knock off of the Pro-ject series.

http://www.project-audio.com

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Pro-ject I believe are legit turntables and every good audio shop I know sells them. I looked into them once and think they are pretty reasonable, about $3-500.

The cheapest one is actually the most unique looking.

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Postby yo » September 7th, 2016, 1:19 pm

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I think pro-ject actually makes it for them... There is another new affordable price turntable out there, I'm blanking on the name right now.... make sure you get some good speakers too :-)

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Postby KenoLeon » September 7th, 2016, 10:44 pm

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yo wrote:There is another new affordable price turntable out there, I'm blanking on the name right now


Let me give it a shot

The pioneer PLX-500 ( In white !) is a lot of turntable for the money.
http://djtechtools.com/2016/08/03/pione ... t-usb-dvs/

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There's also the sony one, but that's a bit more expensive.
http://www.sony.com/electronics/audio-c ... s/ps-hx500

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make sure you get some good speakers too



I am ready :D

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Postby Mr-914 » September 8th, 2016, 6:55 am

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Yo: Indeed, they are made by Pro-ject. In fact, the arm still says "pro-ject" on it!

Keno: I love that Sony TT. That looks great.
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Postby yo » September 8th, 2016, 12:59 pm

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Keno, I said good speakers :-)

You know, like Polk or Definitive... my personal definition might be biased :-) But Pitchfork did do a piece on setting up a simple venial system (they did recommend Polks too :-) )

http://pitchfork.com/features/article/9 ... p_0=205983

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Postby KenoLeon » September 8th, 2016, 1:23 pm

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Oh no he didn't !

Don't bring your overpriced sound coloring bookshelf speakers to a budget studio monitor fight...sir :D
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Postby Mr-914 » September 8th, 2016, 1:35 pm

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I'm debating paying $300 to ship my giant 1970's Fisher speakers from my parents or just buying some new speakers.
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Postby yo » September 8th, 2016, 6:01 pm

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KenoLeon wrote:Oh no he didn't !

Don't bring your overpriced sound coloring bookshelf speakers to a budget studio monitor fight...sir :D


I'm not a fan of studio monitors, mainly because I'm not a fan of lifeless music with no bass, BOOM :-) but don't take my word, take Pitchfork's man.

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Mr-914 wrote:I'm not a fan of studio monitors, mainly because I'm not a fan of lifeless music with no bass, BOOM but don't take my word, take Pitchfork's man.


Well it's all relative I suppose, put down the pitchfork man :D , I like to think that a studio monitor properly calibrated to the room and whatnot, gives you a truer rendition of music as it was recorded ( albeit with a narrower focus) and a bookshelf or something that has a curve is more tuned for rounding the sound in a bigger or varied audio space , I also have monitors in my home theater and I admit they suck unless you are sitting in a very specific spot (mine) , we could probably argue till dawn.
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Postby yo » September 8th, 2016, 7:13 pm

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There is a lot of preference, but our nerds would argue that studio monitors are only designed to be used in a studio very near-field, which is why they also listen on home audio speakers in the studio. The goal of home audio is try to create a more lifelike sound, like the music or the action in video content is happening in the room. Purity vs immersion. What is interesting is to see what a lot of musicians have in their own homes. It is all over the place.

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Postby gmay3able » September 15th, 2016, 1:49 pm

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I'm digging this thread! I am a hobby musician and I use both types of speakers and I totally agree that monitors are for a specific listening purpose, while mixing and mastering a track. (Not to say I don't pipe music and instruments through mine from time to time.) I have a pair of the Yamaha HS monitors and the reason I got them is to be able to tweak the EQ of each track so that it sounded good on the flat "bad" monitors first, knowing that when the same audio is played through speakers tuned for the listening experience they would sound even better!

As an example, if you tried to produce audio on a pair of "listening" speakers that had really good bass you wouldn't feel like you'd need to raise the bass in the track EQ as much. When someone tries to listen to your audio through iPod headphones they might get almost no bass or impression of bass. Same thing goes for high pitched whines that tuned speakers might be filtering out. Play it on another system and you might hear a distracting whine during the whole song, but with the monitors you'd catch that right off the bat.

I have a cheaper turntable ($99) complete with Dieter Rams' idea of the clear top covering.
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I'm not a vinyl expert by any means so I wonder what kind features, materials, and designs would be in the $100 to $500 market. Maybe a dual needle arm on the top and bottom so you don't have to flip the record! One cheap turntable x 2 = $200 the math checks out! :wink:
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Postby KenoLeon » September 15th, 2016, 4:17 pm

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gmay3able wrote: Maybe a dual needle arm on the top and bottom so you don't have to flip the record!


Boy do I have a deal for you:

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