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Re: Toaster

Postby IDiot » April 27th, 2010, 6:36 pm

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I came on at the end of the project for the KitchenAid toaster that Nurb has deemed a disaster (!?) not sure I understand why
a heavy toaster with a 3 pronged outlet makes it a disaster, but the footprint I can understand is less than desirable which is
why I have and use the Rowenta Jasper Morrisson toaster YO! posted, it uses two quartz elements and the toasting performance is
not so hot, but is really thin and light and easy to get in and out of the cabinet we keep it in. I also have the KitchenAid Pro Line Toaster but due to its size and our lack of counterspace it has been relegated to storage.
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My favorite toaster we tested was the longer version of the DeLonghi Aluminum obround one
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similar footprint and proportions to the Rowenta (although a little bigger) and such a sleek minimal exterior ... SO Nice!
It is also sold as a Kenwood in Europe.

That Black and Decker is a piece of junk, looks okay in images, not as nice in person, and the quality and fit and finish
are just awful. Chances are it wouldn't last more than a year or two under normal use.

Shortly after we released the afore mentioned KitchenAid model, Delonghi came out with the Esclusivo
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I have only ever seen it in images, which are all renderings, but the stance and dynamic chamfers look appealing, can't speak
to the quality or performance.

Also recently saw this Breville
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looks promising

Re: Toaster

Postby IDiot » April 27th, 2010, 7:14 pm

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rkuchinsky wrote:
mo-i wrote:
Post by ono » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:10 pm
I love the rowenta


Might be a good toaster but you could rather download the "toast app" from the I-tunes store
to achieve the same result.
Or for the designers there might be the "I-podize radii" function within the next SolidWorks
release...


Restraint is not such an easy thing to do, and do well. If it were don't you think there would be a lot more minimal products given that people love Apple stuff so much?

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mo-i reminds me of one of my issues with this toaster, not that it's a box with radii, I like that, but that all the surfacing is G1 continuity only, all the surface tangencies are very visible and make the sides appear to be bowing inward. The crumb drawer on mine is also not in place with the front surface and has some sink marks, things I would not be quite so harsh about if it weren't a high end $100-150 PLASTIC toaster.

Re: Toaster

Postby mo-i » April 28th, 2010, 2:30 am

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mo-i reminds me of one of my issues with this toaster, not that it's a box with radii, I like that, but that all the surfacing is G1 continuity only, all the surface tangencies are very visible and make the sides appear to be bowing inward. The crumb drawer on mine is also not in place with the front surface and has some sink marks, things I would not be quite so harsh about if it weren't a high end $100-150 PLASTIC toaster.

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Unfortunately I got to get ready for a meeting right now. I'll come back to that this evening and write an essay about how industrial design came full circle when applying "the apple style" to industrial goods.

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Re: Toaster

Postby ono » April 28th, 2010, 4:12 am

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mo-i wrote:

mo-i reminds me of one of my issues with this toaster, not that it's a box with radii, I like that, but that all the surfacing is G1 continuity only, all the surface tangencies are very visible and make the sides appear to be bowing inward. The crumb drawer on mine is also not in place with the front surface and has some sink marks, things I would not be quite so harsh about if it weren't a high end $100-150 PLASTIC toaster.

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Unfortunately I got to get ready for a meeting right now. I'll come back to that this evening and write an essay about how industrial design came full circle when applying "the apple style" to industrial goods.

Simple is never simple, I know, but your client may not.




Regarding legitimacy, It's worth mentioning that Jasper is as much a contributor/instigator to what you call "apple style" as anybody.
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Re: Toaster

Postby junior » April 28th, 2010, 5:51 am


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I dont think you guys have this in the states yet but here's an awesome one from Sunbeam Australia.
Extruded aluminium chassis that has been machined to shape. Clear or black anodized finish.
Awesome.

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Re: Toaster

Postby ono » April 28th, 2010, 6:08 am

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That's very good detail-wise, it looks a lot like an external hard drive
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Re: Toaster

Postby junior » April 28th, 2010, 6:58 am


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There's a matching kettle on the way too.
The detail resolution is fantastic - the same attention to detail that makes the Siemens range so nice.
I'll find out if it's on its way to the UK. (sorry-assumed you were in the US)
If it is, it will be branded by a different company.

Re: Toaster

Postby yo » April 28th, 2010, 7:18 am

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junior wrote:I dont think you guys have this in the states yet but here's an awesome one from Sunbeam Australia.
Extruded aluminium chassis that has been machined to shape. Clear or black anodized finish.
Awesome.

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what does that have, a dual processor intel core in there? :wink:

Re: Toaster

Postby junior » April 28th, 2010, 7:27 am


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There's a button on the side you have to press to be able to safely remove your toast... :wink:

Re: Toaster

Postby ono » April 28th, 2010, 8:41 am

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Thats good, i hate it when my toast gets stuck inside and i have to press the little button with a paper clip to get it out..
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Re: Toaster

Postby Vee » April 28th, 2010, 10:16 am


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dear toast and bagel lovers,

i'm almost afraid to ask this BUT

are you not down with toaster ovens? :twisted:

Re: Toaster

Postby ono » April 28th, 2010, 10:31 am

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Vee wrote:dear toast and bagel lovers,

i'm almost afraid to ask this BUT

are you not down with toaster ovens? :twisted:




Same as comparing boiling water in a pot on the hob VS a kettle.
The oven seems like a waste of energy for a mere toast, I feel like I have to cook a turkey or something big to grant a visit to my oven : )
Having said that, my wife doesn’t see the point in toasters.
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Re: Toaster

Postby Vee » April 28th, 2010, 10:43 am


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i think i'd call it a horizontal toaster rather than an oven. it melts cheese and other substances onto a surface really well aside from producing good toast. always comes with a crumb tray. good for heating a stale slice of pizza. i think the only downside is that the toast doesn't automatically pop up

Re: Toaster

Postby ono » April 28th, 2010, 10:54 am

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O I see, yes they are nice and more versatile than a toaster. I used to have one in the studio.
The footprint is on the big side though.
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Re: Toaster

Postby rkuchinsky » April 28th, 2010, 10:55 am

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Vee wrote:Image

i think i'd call it a horizontal toaster rather than an oven. it melts cheese and other substances onto a surface really well aside from producing good toast. always comes with a crumb tray. good for heating a stale slice of pizza. i think the only downside is that the toast doesn't automatically pop up


Typically it's a toaster oven because you can also use it as a small oven for broiling and such (goes up to 350-450C), much higher than a toaster. It's a toaster because you can also use it on low power to only toast toast.

NOT the same as a normal full size oven.

I don't like them because they are usually ugly and take up so much counter space.

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