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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby junglebrodda » December 11th, 2017, 2:57 pm

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yo wrote:Great discussion here. One of the things I learned (the hard way) is that the level of execution has to balance out the level of thought. A part of the the talk I gave at square one was in the different levels of visual communication and what was appropriate for where you are in the process.

The three levels I identify are:

1) exploration (conversation with yourself or peers)
2) communication (multi person conversation outside of the core group)
3) persuasion (definition and alignment)

And the continuum I place those on are from "What it can be" to "What it will be"

Of course there are an infinite way to articulate and identify these things, but for the sake of a simple framework, go with me here. Your technique level is somewhere between "Communication" and "Persuasion" but your intent level is "What it could be" so the result is cognitive dissonance and people nit picking on stuff where you just want to be like "come on dude, its a sketch!"

any of this make sense or helpful in any way?


#inanutshell! though, to an extent, it isn't even exploration...it really is just an exercise (probably shortsightedly) that starts with a vague idea with little attempt (again, shortsightedly) to really flesh out...just for efficiency's sake i should make the effort to turn stuff into more potential portfolio pieces, (alliteration!), but that would be too sensible...

rkuchinsky wrote:^100%, Michael.

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » December 11th, 2017, 5:24 pm

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junglebrodda wrote:#inanutshell! though, to an extent, it isn't even exploration...it really is just an exercise (probably shortsightedly) that starts with a vague idea with little attempt (again, shortsightedly) to really flesh out...just for efficiency's sake i should make the effort to turn stuff into more potential portfolio pieces, (alliteration!), but that would be too sensible...


nah, I'm sorry I miss understood the intent. I guess I read to much into it between the render level and the video documentation. But viewed more as an experiment it makes more sense. I'm all for that. Forget (or take in stride) what I wrote before and keep experimenting by all means. You actually inspired me to experiment more with this kind of technique and I used it for a client project, in a totally different realm, for a vehicle concept project for a movie. I was always more of a photoshop renderer, but doing more in illustrator defiantly gave me more leeway to make changes.

Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby junglebrodda » December 11th, 2017, 6:07 pm

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no worries everything you noted was valid, once anyone puts something out into the world it is open for discussion, it's on me to make clear...that's cool that you were able to pick something up from it, that's a bonus!

many moons ago i worked as an intern with a co-worked that studied trans design that re-did his one of his uni vehicle projects in illustrator, using a similar rationale...it looked almost comically tedious...until i saw his photoshop layer files...lotsa ways to peel an orange!
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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » December 11th, 2017, 6:13 pm

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junglebrodda wrote:...lotsa ways to peel an orange!


Totally, this is something I try to stress to my students now that I am teaching this term (finals tomorrow). Ans it applies to a micro level technique thing as well as at the macro level. As is a natural desire, many of my students want to know "the right way" to do something. I'm sure I was the same way. The truth is there is no right way. Or at least there is no single right way. Did you get the best result you possibly could within reason? Then you did it the right way. Was the result poor? Then the process was wrong.

Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby junglebrodda » December 11th, 2017, 8:44 pm

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junglebrodda wrote:...lotsa ways to peel an orange!


Totally, this is something I try to stress to my students now that I am teaching this term (finals tomorrow). Ans it applies to a micro level technique thing as well as at the macro level. As is a natural desire, many of my students want to know "the right way" to do something. I'm sure I was the same way. The truth is there is no right way. Or at least there is no single right way. Did you get the best result you possibly could within reason? Then you did it the right way. Was the result poor? Then the process was wrong.


there might not be a single “right way” but there definitely are multiple wrong ways!!! i don’t agree that the results should be qualitative of the process(es) in the absolute, only because there are times when success happens in spite of bad habits/practices & vice versa; the outcome is important but i feel like it is “better” to have metrics outside of the result...i think the best way i’ve had it explained, is a “best practices” type ting, where it is almost like a good, better, best approach; less about being right or the outcome than making sure some necessary boxes are ticked
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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby rkuchinsky » January 4th, 2018, 1:34 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby junglebrodda » January 9th, 2018, 5:04 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby junglebrodda » January 12th, 2018, 4:51 am

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » January 17th, 2018, 5:05 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » January 17th, 2018, 5:36 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » January 20th, 2018, 7:44 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » January 23rd, 2018, 1:55 pm

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

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Re: Sketch-Fu: Men's Footwear

Postby yo » January 23rd, 2018, 7:03 pm

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Nice, you guys are really going crazy with the illustrator renders.

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