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Just a general post following on from today's interesting article on another micro apartment.

What do we think of theseļ¼Ÿ Would you rent one if you had recently moved to a new city and starting a new job? Does the lack of space (theoretically) concern you?

I personally think they are fantastic and sitting in my university room now I can't think why I would want something like this up until I had a family, especially if I was pushing a new career move or whatever...

Anyone care to discuss?

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Postby yo » December 10th, 2012, 11:51 am

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Totally do able, especially if you are living in a place like SF or NY where the majority of your time is going to be spent not at home. Over the years we have lived in a variety of sizes of places, both long and short term. They all have their inherent pros and cons. One of my favorites that we stayed in was this 500 sq ft glass house that we rented for a week a couple of years ago. I could have lived there, though it was a bit remote: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/25230
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Re: Micro/Smart apartments - What do we think?

Postby mirk » December 10th, 2012, 2:08 pm

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Love it. Would probably prefer it to a bigger place, I barely spend any time at home when working (not in school), and there's less to clean. It would also be fun to switch it around every once and a while, sleep in a different room, etc. I always love a good furniture shake-up.

The first thing I noticed was that the dishwasher is way to small for my purposes, I have trouble unloading the dishwasher as is, and prefer to do housework in large chunks. You would also need a grocery store nearby with that fridge.

Michael, where's that glass house? Looks like it would require some SoCal weather.
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Re: Micro/Smart apartments - What do we think?

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At 61/57 years of age, my wife and I have accumulated so much inherited family furniture and extraneous stuff that I would welcome a move to something like this.

SWMBO, however, would probably balk at the idea....
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Michael, where's that glass house? Looks like it would require some SoCal weather.


check the link... https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/25230
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I didn't realise you guys had replied to this until now...

I have been thinking a lot about the concept of super smart apartments and how I wouldn't need anything more than one up until I had a family (I put would* in the original post, my mistake)...

Here at my school we have a single final year project that we do and I have been trying to think about how I could use this concept.

Could I standardise a design that could be optimised for 250 sq/ft, 350 sq/ft and 450 sq/ft? I would want to start a company with it if so and I know it would still be boutique kind of design, perhaps in batches of 20 apartments at most but I just can't stop thinking about it... Yes, it would be hard work but how great would it be if a company could completely refit a dilapidated apartment for say $50,000 that increased the monthly rent by 30/40 %...

Thoughts on such a daring project? I just can't seem to fault the idea if it was done with a lot of thought so that I could justify why a customer wants it and they will say 'oh yer, ok that's a great idea!'....

Pull out beds, sofas, tables etc. BUT done in a very elegant way, as part of an entire, well thought out design - no 'oh we'll just stick that pull out bed here' mentality. I know the American company that produces fantastic pull out designs but I think it needs to be a whole, integrated apartment design with everything considered - kind of like the 'Machines for Living' but much more modern.

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I've always thought space saving furniture is pretty interesting as well...

If you decide to look further into it, then I think it might be worth starting with a bit of economics. Do a competitor audit - find what's out there and at what price, maybe get some quotes. There are definitely companies outside the US as well, I know I've seen some italian and some swedish space saving furniture. See if it's a viable business idea.

That said, I think you might find that standardising a set of furniture that specialised for a set size might be quite tricky, considering all the weird apartments with doors and power outlets in bizarre places... Or maybe that's just student living in the UK? ;)


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Hey Liam,

http://gizmodo.com/5967622/the-tiny-tra ... quare-feet


Is this the sort of thing you were thinking of? It doesn't look to have been produced by a company specialising in this area, more of a conceptual "Look what could be done" kind of thing. Although i think they have pulled it off, I could see myself living there 100%, if only for the experience of it alone.

For what its worth i think its a great idea. Although this is from a potential tenant of a tiny flat perspective, if i owned a tiny flat and was renting it out for a already substantial amount (If it was inner city), then would I want to shell out to renovate it to maybe increase the rent? I'm not sure.

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Re: Micro/Smart apartments - What do we think?

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OliFirth wrote:Hey Liam,

http://gizmodo.com/5967622/the-tiny-tra ... quare-feet


Is this the sort of thing you were thinking of?


Precisely Oli! That is actually the video that got me seriously thinking. Yes it is possible to do on a much bigger scale as he said but I think it's something that someone/a company would have to live and breath for years and nothing else. I think ergonomics are one of the biggest factors involved as well as very intuitive, but SIMPLE, mechanics - there would be so much to consider, but who WOULDN'T want to live somewhere like this, having more space for less rent?!

Yo - Good find! I'll have to bare that in mind!

I think standardizing it would be very difficult indeed but I was thinking what if a system could be developed along side all the design so that if there were odd plugs, awkward doors or difficult spaces, a team could just work around it. It would have to be very well thought out indeed so as you suggest Hiower, serious thought and research into economics would be in order.

I think it would only really work as a business if it was done with, say, a block of 6-10 apartments in central San Fran, Manhattan, London etc...


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