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Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby Mr-914 » September 14th, 2017, 7:02 am

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The X7 front is OK. The side and rear 3/4 view are bugging me. It looks kinda '90's Land Cruiser mixed with '90's Grand Cherokee. I don't think either of those cars should pop in my head when I look at a BMW.
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Re: What is BMW doing?

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I'm more interested in the Mini in the background. Unfortunately, it does little for me. And from what I have read about it's intended specs, it's going to be a dog. The only possible advantage is to have all-wheel on a 2-door hatch with a low center of gravity.

Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby Cyberdemon » September 14th, 2017, 1:26 pm

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I still have a hard time saying whether or not it's going in the wrong direction since they've done a higher than normal amount of concepts, but their production models still feel good in general. I have no qualms with the new 5 series or X3 that just came out, they feel BMW and buttoned up.

Waiting on the new X3M as a potential future dad mobile to replace the GTI.

Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby yo » September 14th, 2017, 10:46 pm

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Might I recommend this as a dad mobile if you enjoy the GTI? https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/vol ... irst-drive

Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby ralphzoontjens » September 15th, 2017, 3:43 am

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Eton I agree with you. I like the classic BMW style too, but especially what Bangle did and how BMW took it further afterwards was a genius move.
BMW's were distinctive, sexy and powerful and managed to look the least boxy with a spectacularly coherent set of lines and details.
Now what they did with the X7 was create a box, stick on separate details and tweak surfaces separately that would deem to make a car less boxy, and then hide the mismatch with all these chrome details and angles. If you look at the Pininfarina Gran Lusso, the surfacing is coherent in tension and the lines are well proportioned and co-align with the volumetric approach. They are addressing a totally different market here than the true BMW fans.

I love the Z4 concept too, it is a slight bit too concepty but it is there.
The i series were too 2000/iRobot and to me already outdated when they came out but still a nice surprise.
The last vision concept was just that, a blue sky approach into the future, but with the new one, they are showing that it is possible to design a BMW in line with other electric vehicles and incorporating original techno-progressive features without looking too 'Japanese'. If they find a middle way between the Z4, this one and maybe some other concepts they did I think they will have a brilliant new fleet.
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Re: What is BMW doing?

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The beer opener side window is horrendous though on the new Vision.
That is a shame for a brand that has Bangle and the Hofmeister kink in their heritage.
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Re: What is BMW doing?

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yo wrote:Might I recommend this as a dad mobile if you enjoy the GTI? https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/vol ... irst-drive


The R-Line looked cool but not sure when it'll hit the states. If I go for something less powerful the new XC60 will probably win, gorgeous looking thing. If only Volvo didn't over-inflate the price of the V90.

Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby yo » September 15th, 2017, 8:32 am

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I saw a current gen R line Tiguan yesterday. it really improves the look of the car.

What about an Audi A4 Allroad Avant.

Re: What is BMW doing?

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yo wrote:I saw a current gen R line Tiguan yesterday. it really improves the look of the car.

What about an Audi A4 Allroad Avant.


I'm not a big fan of the butched up wagons like the Cross Country/Allroad. If I ever had any intention of ever driving on anything dirty I could see the appeal, but I can't justify the amount of money they charge for unpainted plastic bits.

Saw a late 2000's S6 Avant (Or at least an A6 with a lot of money spent on cosmetic mods) today, now that was a nice looking car. Sleek as the sedan with just a little extra storage.

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Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby cwatkinson » September 18th, 2017, 11:56 am

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I saw this on the road the other day and to be honest i thought it looked like a kids toy. Not what i would expect from BMW (in a bad way)
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Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby Mr-914 » September 19th, 2017, 6:52 am

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i3 has been out for almost four years, and you just spotted your first? Ouch.

i3 has not aged well, imho. It started off looking a little extreme. Now it feels cheap and pasted together.
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Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby cwatkinson » September 19th, 2017, 8:21 am

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we aint so progressive up hear in da north. or maybe we have better taste as to not want to own this things......

Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby slippyfish » September 26th, 2017, 2:09 pm

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yo wrote:I saw a current gen R line Tiguan yesterday. it really improves the look of the car.

What about an Audi A4 Allroad Avant.


R-Line Tiguan = budget SQ5...?

Another cool thing that we won't get is the Golf R Wagon. The US likes crossovers - handling and visibility be damned. Such a bummer. I saw a new BMW X4 M, in turquoise parked at our building visitor spot the other day - can't understand how people make these choices.
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Re: What is BMW doing?

Postby yo » September 26th, 2017, 8:54 pm

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I didn't;t even know they made a R version of eh Golf Wagon.... like the Rs3 and S3 hatch/wagon... we just don't get it. I'm happy we have the 5 door Golf R hatch. My wife is loving hers! ... and by my wife, I mean I borrow it a lot....

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