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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Cyberdemon » June 19th, 2013, 10:21 am

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The Cruze is a pretty nice small car. I spent a week in a Cruze RS rental with the 1.4 Turbo and it certainly wasn't fast, and also had the electric steering but overall it felt very sharp and responsive all around. Good brakes, no excessively dilapidated throttle modes, and a punchy little engine and gearbox. I found myself throwing it around and it was pretty nice for the money

I just wish they'd refresh it so it didn't have those awkward tail lights and super pointy headlights. Maybe after the mid life refresh it'd be a little more refined.

The Mustang is still a great drivers car when it comes to bang for buck and "do it yourself ability". The interior is pretty crappy but man, that exhaust note is worth every crappy rattle you'll deal with later in life. Big engine bay is easy to work in and it's American so you don't need to deal with the insanely expensive parts. And it's the lightest of the "Big" pony cars at around 3400 lbs.

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Mr-914 » June 19th, 2013, 11:41 am

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I like the Cruze. Living in the north, FWD or AWD is almost required in winter. I'm glad that people are making the best FWD cars ever. However, I'd like something like I described for summer. Hell, I even have money for it now.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Generatewhatsnext » June 22nd, 2013, 8:56 am

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Mike, I agree on the Mustang exhaust note. You always know when a Mustang V8 rolls by.

Ray, have you driven any of the recent Mazdas? I wonder if that little hatch has any Miata DNA in it?
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Mr-914 » June 25th, 2013, 12:44 pm

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I don't like Mazda. First, they are the worse cars for rust. I've never seen a car rust as fast as the Mazda 3. Albeit, this is a nordic country problem. Also, they do feel sporty, but artificially so. They boost the damper rates to keep roll down, but they are way too high. Fords, with the same basic suspension are superior: better ride and identical performance. Last, they have followed the German cockpit trend (cocooning). I like a nice open feeling interior, which has almost completely disappeared in modern cars.

I'm thinking Subaru or Acura for my next ride...maybe a Hyundai Elantra Touring if I can't spare the extra money.

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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby yo » June 25th, 2013, 6:01 pm

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How about a BRZ for the next ride Ray?

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Mr-914 » July 7th, 2013, 12:58 pm

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yo: I've got a kid now, so I have to have 4 doors. I was debating a RX8 or BMW E30, 325is. BRZ is a little too small.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby mo-i » July 8th, 2013, 3:45 am

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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Mr-914 » July 15th, 2013, 2:16 pm

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Mo-i: I want a big wagon for my year round car. E30 is just for running around town in the summer.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Cyberdemon » August 15th, 2013, 7:55 pm

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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/15/bmw- ... ed-images/

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Well here's the one most people have been holding their breath for...the M"4"

Thoughts?

Aside from the muddy yellow paint and the two aero slats above the outside bumper grilles, looks pretty stunning. Glad that awkward boomerang scoop on the fenders finally resolved itself into something that doesn't look like it came from a pep boys. Has a lot of the new M6 language in it and that's certainly not a bad thing.

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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby NURB » August 15th, 2013, 8:09 pm

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Something odd happening on the rear quarter, maybe. But I'm feeling the rest if it for sure. I bet it's a stunner in person.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Cyberdemon » August 16th, 2013, 4:11 pm

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Some more pics...

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/bmw-conc ... to-716822/

Guess the interior isn't finalized otherwise they wouldn't have worked so hard to limo tint the windows. Though I don't expect it to be a departure at all from the 4 series except for some expensive stitching options and carbon fiber panel trim.

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby NURB » August 16th, 2013, 8:07 pm

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Is it just me or does this seem to be nearly the size of the current 5 series? Something is making it look huge, to me.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby yo » October 20th, 2013, 8:13 pm

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I think I might like the 2 series better:
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/19/bmw- ... ctober-25/
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

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NURB wrote:Something odd happening on the rear quarter, maybe. But I'm feeling the rest if it for sure. I bet it's a stunner in person.


I like how the horizontal ridge ("belt"?) that comes off the boomeranger tapers rather abruptly into the bulge around the rear wheel. It plants the rear, gives it muscle, and breaks up in the Z-direction a surface that could be tall and boring.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Cyberdemon » October 21st, 2013, 10:17 am

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yo wrote:I think I might like the 2 series better:
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/19/bmw- ... ctober-25/


The M235i is going to be a sweet piece. 300hp, even less weight, and a much tighter design than the outgoing 1 with it's wonky proportions.

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