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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby Mr-914 » February 7th, 2014, 10:17 am

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This post has started making me really miss the classis wire wheel. Why doesn't anyone use these on a concept car?

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby yo » February 7th, 2014, 11:54 am

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I've actually never been a fan of the wire wheel. I get the nostalgic charm, and interesting construction, but they just look fussy (and hard to clean).... but, that said, I think a black wire wheel could be interesting.

Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby NURB » February 7th, 2014, 3:54 pm

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Indeed...

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby mroh11 » February 8th, 2014, 1:23 am


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I agree they would be a painnn to clean, but they do work well on classic cars and remakes. For example the lovely Eagle Speedster looks just fine with them in silver. As well as the Morgan three wheeler.

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby Lmo » February 8th, 2014, 12:56 pm

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Why doesn't anyone use these on a concept car?


Fabrication cost is fairly obvious. Not so much for a "concept" car, but if the overall feel of the design is based on the spoked wheel, the model offered to the public probably should have spoked wheels, n'est-ce pas?

My take on black spoked wheels is that the builder was either too pressed for time to disassemble them and have all the parts replated, or that he's too cheap and simply rattle-canned them black; black hiding more sin than "chrome" or aluminum/silver.

Maybe a step further back is in order?

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well, maybe not that far back...

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby Mr-914 » February 10th, 2014, 8:10 am

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I think the model T had wood wheels. My dad a few T rims laying around when I was a boy. I thought they were so odd. Cool look though.
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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby sprockets » February 10th, 2014, 2:53 pm

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Wooden spokes are crazy. The installation method is nothing special but not what I expected (with my limited from building up bicycle wheels).

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby Lmo » February 12th, 2014, 3:54 pm

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The modern cast aluminum "hot rod" wheel in the picture I posted is loosely based on the wooden Model T wheel.

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The Model T wheel was based on a late horse-drawn era mechanical wagon wheel called the "Sarven" wheel, patented in 1857; wooden spokes and segmented-rim "felloes" coupled with a steel hub. The savings was in the hub, both weight and fabrication time.

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Prior to the Sarven design the hubs were turned from solid wood and the indivual spokes fit into hand-cut mortices in the hub. Hub diameter for a 36-48" diameter wheel was around 10"

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I suspect that most wheelwright hated hubs too.
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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby iab » March 6th, 2014, 5:09 pm


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A cornucopia of stupidity on this site, http://weburbanist.com/2009/03/03/futur ... s-designs/

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Wow iab those are fantastic!

This is from the Big Red S company, and I really respect their design effort (if not always the outcomes). Looks like this actually works so we can't hate on it too much. Based on the parts I think its from the mid-90s...

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby NURB » March 7th, 2014, 9:07 pm

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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby Mr-914 » March 7th, 2014, 9:48 pm

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I guess it was cool in the '90's hehe:)
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Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby mbC » June 29th, 2016, 1:28 pm


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Hubless wheels, carbon fiber construction, interal gearing, sub-26lb weight, all for 1,000 Euros! I'm not a gambler, but I'm not seeing this come to market in 12 months, if ever.

Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby holtag » June 29th, 2016, 9:26 pm

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Gods... Seeing how many people already fell for that kickstarter, it really makes me wonder if I'd be willing to sell my soul for some easy cash. All they seem to have is a foam mock-up with LEDs stuck on. No inkling whatsoever on the mechanical side. Imma sit back and get some popcorn.

Re: The Official Hubless Wheel hater thread.

Postby AndyMc » June 29th, 2016, 10:06 pm

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mbC wrote:Hubless wheels, carbon fiber construction, interal gearing, sub-26lb weight, all for 1,000 Euros! I'm not a gambler, but I'm not seeing this come to market in 12 months, if ever.


Never ever :lol:

It's just a little ugly as well.

Good luck to the people who put up 50 grand already.

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