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Re: Thinking of getting a new ride

Postby yo » February 25th, 2016, 9:48 am

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As the saying goes "even a blind squirrel gets a nut sometimes" sometimes a happy coincidence happens. In general though I'm surprised how little they design for phones in cars. My last Audi had the phone connection in the passenger glove box. Not really an ergonomic solution. This one has the connector in the center armrest, much better, but it is a proprietary cord (dumb) that is 10cm to short I'd say and it is an older iPhone 30pin in a 2015 model. A connector Apple has not used for several years. Now when they did the product planning for the car the 30pin was used but if they just used an USBa instead of the proprietary connector it would have been an easy swap out.

Other than that, love it :-)

Re: Thinking of getting a new ride

Postby Mr-914 » February 25th, 2016, 12:29 pm

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Phones have changed in size rapidly too. It must be hard to forsee that in another industry.

I don't understand how I've had cheap aftermarket car radios for 10 years that have USB and my '09 Jetta doesn't (just the aux jack). File this under more stuff that offends me about the supposed invisible hand of capitalism.
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Re: Thinking of getting a new ride

Postby yo » February 25th, 2016, 12:51 pm

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I think it has to do with very long product cycles, mass purchasing, and industry only thinking. When I was at frog we worked with a lot of automakers on HMI (Human Machine Interface) and I was surprised at the level of awareness on what was going on in mobile technology. This was 5 years ago now and I know a lot of automakers have invested in Silicon Valley think tank groups so hopefully we should be seeing the benefits of that now.

Re: Thinking of getting a new ride

Postby mo-i » February 26th, 2016, 4:27 am

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I think they are just milking the cow while they can and tend to have the impression that the cows are completely blind and dumb. The German "premium brands" seem to be a mile behind Ford and Chrysler if we are talking about the seamless integration of digital services. What is standard in a Fiat costs a "fortune" in a Beamer.

It is a different story for a different thread. But actually we got a 5series on order right now. IF you want seamless integration of all your gadgets you need to order the "big" navigation pack, plus internet, plus online streaming services. On a car like that it jacks up the price by 5 percent, but on a 1-Series it would have been prohibitive. Thus our second car does not have navigation at all and the phone integration was aftermarket. Both solutions work reasonably well.-> Your bad VW.

"best" thing about the BMW base configuration is the "stereo". You actually get 3 speakers (German market.) More speakers = Markup for
"HiFi". Real Hifi = Markup for Harman Kardon, Brilliant system = Markup for Bose.

Does this read like a rant? Well I still ordered and I will be taxed for it, but I don't have to pay for it...

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Re: Thinking of getting a new ride

Postby Mr-914 » February 26th, 2016, 7:38 am

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mo-i: Everyone in Canada thinks Germany is paved with gold bricks, so you must be wrong. hehe

It does surprise me that Ford had Sync in 2007 in quite inexpensive cars and we don't see that dedication from other makes.

On the other hand, I don't want any of it. I'll call someone back when I get to where I'm going. Nice to have internet radio in the car though.
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