BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby yo » December 6th, 2012, 10:00 am

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Have you seen the new BMW 4 series "concept". Hopefully this is a thinly veiled production model. The front and rear clips are pretty awesome. The back especially is pretty bad ass. Side view proportions are really nice. Love the mirrors and door handles. I'd love to see those details go to production. My only caveat, and there is always something, is the side vent behind the front wheel. It is better that the Aston Martin inspired stuff everyone else is doing though.

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Can't wait to see the production version. Thoughts?
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Cyberdemon » December 6th, 2012, 10:23 am

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I'm surprised they launched this as a concept, but you can tell the design is pretty close. I think some of the drama on the bumpers will wind up going away, and the LED mirrors and snazzy door handles will probably get ditched, but other then that they are pretty close.

The interior I'd expect to be identical to the current interior, the shots they've shown were just the standard interior with every panel lavishly coated in leather.

Gorgeous though...makes the current look instantly dated. Can't wait till the M4 gets launched.

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Postby Brett_nyc » December 6th, 2012, 11:34 am


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I like it a lot. The bumpers definitely have some i3 and i8 influence in there. The rear 3/4 reminds me a lot of the current 6, which I also like a lot.

The side vent is puzzling though. The woven belt leather detailing in the interior is a little odd too.

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Postby rkuchinsky » December 6th, 2012, 12:00 pm

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For sure this is the new 3er coupe. The existing design is 5 years old. The overall proportions look very similar, I wonder if it's truly a new body style underneath as they usually do for the larger updates, or just a re-skin.

Looks OK, but a bit overdesigned for me. Rear profile a bit busy with the pinched lights and the gaping section below. Side vent totally unnecessary.

I have to say I'm not really on board with BMW nowadays. There are a lot of hits but a lot of misses. New Audis I think much nicer and more consistent across the range than BMW.

1 series is hot.
new 3 coupe is much improved.
new 5 coupe is OK, but a bit fussy and nowhere near the presence or older 5s a few generations back
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7 is better than the old one by far, but only looks nice in some angles. A7 is better. e38 were the top for the 7.
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Postby Cyberdemon » December 6th, 2012, 12:27 pm

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This is a completely new chassis. It's the same F3X platform as the current sedan. The interior they show is exactly the same plus all the crazy leather work, which I guarantee will all come off in production.

They're definitely calling it the 4 series. The same way our 1 series coupes will become the 2 series. 1 and 3 will be left for the 4 doors.

They're just filling gaps left and right to throw whatever they can into the line. Then they step on their own toes once they make a 6 series Sedan and call it a "Grand Coupe"

I won't ruin this thread by posting the ghastly 3 series Gran Turismo...yech

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby Kershaw » December 6th, 2012, 12:58 pm

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rkuchinsky wrote:....If they call it a 4 series though, they will ruin a lot of history.


Agree but logically it does make sense (It didn't to me until it was explained from a buddy at BMW)

5 series = 4DR
6 series = 2DR
7 series = 4DR
8 series = 2DR

So it makes sense to make the 3 series a 4DR and the 4 series a 2DR following the pattern... I would assume the 1 series will become a 4DR as well and the introduction of the 2 will come later on.

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Postby Cyberdemon » December 6th, 2012, 3:14 pm

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It doesn't make as much sense when you think about the fact that the 6 series now has a 4 door "Gran Coupe", and the 1 series will still remain a 2 door but a hatchback (Which we probably won't ever get in the US) so the 2 series will be a convertible.

It started off logical, but then became a bit murky.

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Postby Kershaw » December 6th, 2012, 3:21 pm

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Damn Marketeers....

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby yo » December 6th, 2012, 4:43 pm

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I'm liking the direction.

I feel the current z4 is just too bland, as with the current 5 and 6 series. The new 7 series I admit is an improvement. Overall it felt like there was a watering down of the Bangle line to make it more palatable. This 4 series, and the 3 series, as well as the "i" cars feel like VanHooydonk evolving to a bolder language again. I'm liking it.

Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby TaylorWelden » December 6th, 2012, 5:12 pm

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Really enjoying this handle detail. Says "aviation" to me.

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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby slippyfish » December 6th, 2012, 8:09 pm

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It has a really mean face, both coming and going!

The vent BS on the front wheel fender is pretty bad. Feels like a marketing requirement.

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Postby NURB » December 6th, 2012, 10:17 pm

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Anyone else seeing a little recent Jag feel in the profile shot in the doorway? I think it's the vent that does it, but also the position of the wheels and the shape of the hood.
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Postby NURB » December 6th, 2012, 10:22 pm

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Like the new XK's... Just a little hint of it.
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Postby TaylorWelden » December 7th, 2012, 1:15 am

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NURB wrote:Anyone else seeing a little recent Jag feel in the profile shot in the doorway? I think it's the vent that does it, but also the position of the wheels and the shape of the hood.


My thoughts exactly. That was actually the first photo I saw in the thread (mouse wheel went too quick for me), and I thought it was someone responding with "that BMW looks like this Jag here".

Come to find out that Jag was the BMW.

Not a terrible thing I suppose, but the likeness is absolutely there. Mainly the hood shape for me, that vent just adds to it.
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Re: BMW 4 Series.... BMW is back!

Postby nxakt » December 7th, 2012, 3:38 am

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slippyfish wrote:The vent BS on the front wheel fender is pretty bad. Feels like a marketing requirement.


Had the same impression, for China.

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